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Aliens are coming October 14th 2008 Galactic Federation

Started by shooter001, August 27, 2008, 01:21:01 PM

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Fast

Quote from: resonanceman on October 26, 2008, 07:32:27 PM
Fast

So...... you  can quote bible  verses .
I am not impressed .

As far  as  looking  deeper into  all this ..........I did.
I found that  God is  real and  more present  than  the religions  want  you to believe.

No amount  of  bible  quotes  will convence me that  you understand  anything  about God .
No  narrow minded  articles   will  teach  me anything.

If you  wish  to  show  me  the way .    Show me  something about love.
God is love  ......he is not  judgement . 
Western  religion tends to push  the  judgement  thing .
Fear and  judgement  are the  what  western  religions use to keep the flock  in control and  filling the offering plates.

I will never  look to the bible  for  guidance .
I know it has been edited  quite a few times .
It  still has  much truth to it but the  truths  that will set you free  have been edited out .
There is  no profit  in  teaching  people  how to find  the love of God  within their own hearts .

gary

Hi

First off, I'm not trying to impress anyone here. And the word and teachings of our lord should be free it's written, Jesus NEVER charged people when he teached the masses. He actually fed them for free. So don't mix up corrupted religion with true christianity.

So if you looked deeper into this, what about the whole "I am god thing"?

There are plenty of verses that show how Jesus Christ(New Testament) and God (Old Testament) Judge sinners.

The true Lord judge sin, because he is fair. If you sin don't repent don't say sorry, judgement is coming.

I can tell you this about love, I have personally felt the love from our heavenly father, I can not put it into words it's that great, it's amazing. Closest thing that can describe it is the love that only a mother can have for here children. It's an love that drive away all fear. I had this experience a long time ago and only recently found this verse, and it's true. I have felt how the fear in me just went away instantly and this amazing love was left. Perfect love that's a good description.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Just because new bible versions are corrupt don't mean the old ones are, however the truth about repentance and salvation remains.

resonanceman

Quote from: Fast on October 27, 2008, 07:11:57 PM


So if you looked deeper into this, what about the whole "I am god thing"?


Fast

If  you look  deep enough into  the love within it will sort of  open up and  expand. ....  you can FEEL  love  flowing to and from ALL things. 
At that moment  you also become  aware that YOU  are the love that is flowing. 
The  love is in no way divided or separated.   The love  flows into and  through  all things,  physical  bodies  and objects still exist but  they  are all but meaningless.

Untill  you EXPERIENCE  this for yourself   " I am God"  is only empty words. .

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There are plenty of verses that show how Jesus Christ(New Testament) and God (Old Testament) Judge sinners.


Jesus dealt  with sinners ........but  are you sure that he judged them?

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The true Lord judge sin, because he is fair. If you sin don't repent don't say sorry, judgement is coming.


That is  what you were taught  by  those that  are in a position to  gain  from   your fears .

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I can tell you this about love, I have personally felt the love from our heavenly father, I can not put it into words it's that great, it's amazing. Closest thing that can describe it is the love that only a mother can have for here children. It's an love that drive away all fear. I had this experience a long time ago and only recently found this verse, and it's true. I have felt how the fear in me just went away instantly and this amazing love was left. Perfect love that's a good description.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.


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perfect
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wonderful
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I agree  100%

Now  if you just focus on this  love of God  that   you have experienced   you will  experience it more and more often .     
Do the things that  bring you  this  feeling  of love .
In generaal  loving others and serving others   will  work the best at  bringing you  more of  these great feelings of love.

Refuse  the thoughts and feelings that take you away from this feeling of Gods love.
The  more time you  spend in this  powerful feeling  of the love of God  the more  you  will  understand  Gods  will.          It is like the love  whispers  to you.

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Just because new bible versions are corrupt don't mean the old ones are, however the truth about repentance and salvation remains.

I agree .........just not in the way  that  the church teaches .
You can't  consciously  dwell in the love  of God for any lenght of time  until you leave  your  corrupt  and  negative thoughts and  feelings behind . .....that is  true repentance . 

The  love of God IS  salvation .     When  your  heart is filled with the love of God to the point that your eyes almost  fill  with tears of joy  you are experiencing  salvation .
When you heart is  truly filled  there is no fear ........  you feel peaceful  even  if things  around you are very  troubling  to others . 

The love  within has never whispered   anything  about  judgment   or  retribution .
The  message  I  hear from the love  within  is always a "flavor " of one simple message.

Love one another

This simple message should  be all that our churches  teach us 
Everything  else is they teach is  corruption. 

gary

sparks

Think Legacy
A spark gap is cold cold cold
Space is a hot hot liquid
Spread the Love

Fast

Quote from: resonanceman on October 27, 2008, 08:02:38 PM
Fast

If  you look  deep enough into  the love within it will sort of  open up and  expand. ....  you can FEEL  love  flowing to and from ALL things. 
At that moment  you also become  aware that YOU  are the love that is flowing. 
The  love is in no way divided or separated.   The love  flows into and  through  all things,  physical  bodies  and objects still exist but  they  are all but meaningless.

Untill  you EXPERIENCE  this for yourself   " I am God"  is only empty words. .

Jesus dealt  with sinners ........but  are you sure that he judged them?

That is  what you were taught  by  those that  are in a position to  gain  from   your fears .

:)
perfect
:)
wonderful
:)
I agree  100%

Now  if you just focus on this  love of God  that   you have experienced   you will  experience it more and more often .     
Do the things that  bring you  this  feeling  of love .
In generaal  loving others and serving others   will  work the best at  bringing you  more of  these great feelings of love.

Refuse  the thoughts and feelings that take you away from this feeling of Gods love.
The  more time you  spend in this  powerful feeling  of the love of God  the more  you  will  understand  Gods  will.          It is like the love  whispers  to you.

I agree .........just not in the way  that  the church teaches .
You can't  consciously  dwell in the love  of God for any lenght of time  until you leave  your  corrupt  and  negative thoughts and  feelings behind . .....that is  true repentance . 

The  love of God IS  salvation .     When  your  heart is filled with the love of God to the point that your eyes almost  fill  with tears of joy  you are experiencing  salvation .
When you heart is  truly filled  there is no fear ........  you feel peaceful  even  if things  around you are very  troubling  to others . 

The love  within has never whispered   anything  about  judgment   or  retribution .
The  message  I  hear from the love  within  is always a "flavor " of one simple message.

Love one another

This simple message should  be all that our churches  teach us 
Everything  else is they teach is  corruption. 

gary

Hi

Yes we should love one another, however a father have the right to discipline his children if they do wrong. And so does our Holy Father if we do wrong.
You could go and read Matthew 21:12 how Jesus is mad and throw out all that had business there.
Acts 12:23 Herod not giving God the glory. John 5:22 Father have entrusted all judgement to the Son.

No I don't want to "do the things that bring you this feeling of love". not that thing, how come?

I got to take a look and see how it's like in hell, my Lord showed me this and it frightened me badly.
It filled me with fear, Jesus came put his hand on my shoulder and filled me with his perfect love and all fear went away. I tell you if you ever would walk through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus, you wouldn't be afraid.

The love you speak off is different, it's just a small sample of the real thing, perfect love. Gods will
is that people repent turn to Jesus
Luke 5:32 "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow produces repentance to salvation...
To clarify, God will make you feel bad when you sin, if you take note and don't suppress the sorrow in you and repent this brings salvation.

Only saying love one another don't fix sin, hell is still there, fallen angels are still here, false prophets, demons, offspring of fallen angels... if you are full of real love, it should be easy to turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness, say you're sorry. After all Jesus love for us is a perfect love. He gave his life for us.

Don't forget
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

resonanceman

Quote from: Fast on October 27, 2008, 11:50:51 PM
Hi

Yes we should love one another, however a father have the right to discipline his children if they do wrong. And so does our Holy Father if we do wrong.


Yes but God is not  a " physical "  parent
I could   explain  for an hour or so about how life is in fact perfect even though  it seems so screwed up here.   
At this point    I could explain it all day and you  would not  accept it or understand it .
You  still choose to  believe the  things you were taught  by the church .     
That is OK .     
I am answering  some of your  questions .( from my understanding )   
I am not asking you  to believe as I do .

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You could go and read Matthew 21:12 how Jesus is mad and throw out all that had business there.

This is  probably the most  often  quoted  verse used to show that so called negative feelings  or anger is  good . 
Jesus  was not angry when he  threw out the money changers .
His heart  was filled with love ...........His heart was ALWAYS filled with love.
It is a simple matter  of efficiency .   Sometimes  you have to  speak in the language that  the people  are willing to  understand . 
Fear is  something that the money changers understood well .........so he spoke in a way  that created fear.
ACTING  angry  while  keeping your heart filled with love is a  bit tricky .......but the effects  can be dramatic .   
In this case  the effects  were dramatic  enough that they are  still talked about after 2000 years ...........Jesus  put the fear of God into them .    No  amount of sweet talking  would have  done that. 

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No I don't want to "do the things that bring you this feeling of love". not that thing, how come?


Most  people at this time  don't want to do what it takes to keep there hearts filled with the  love of God .   It is just not  part  of your path at this time.     
I suggest  just trusting  God that you are at the perfect  place  on your spiritual path right now and always. 

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I got to take a look and see how it's like in hell, my Lord showed me this and it frightened me badly.
It filled me with fear, Jesus came put his hand on my shoulder and filled me with his perfect love and all fear went away. I tell you if you ever would walk through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus, you wouldn't be afraid.


What love can show us is colored by  what we choose to accept as truth .
God  can't  show us any ultimate truth ....he can only show  us the highest  truth we are prepared to accept.    What  God  shows to me  will be different than what he shows to you ..... but  both of us are shown  exactly  what  we need to  see to follow the path we have chosen.

What was more important to you ......seeing hell .........or Jesus putting his hand on your  shoulder and filling you with love ? .

I  AM  walking through a valley of the shadow of death ........and I am not afraid .
Physically  I have a few  problems  that  if they continue  as they have been going .....I may not survive  the winter. 
I have faith that things  will  improve .
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The love you speak off is different, it's just a small sample of the real thing, perfect love.

Yes ........Gods love is infinite .....no matter how much  of it we experience  there is always more.


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Only saying love one another don't fix sin, hell is still there, fallen angels are still here, false prophets, demons, offspring of fallen angels... if you are full of real love, it should be easy to turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness, say you're sorry.

According to my understanding this is a message  of  corruption .   It has little love to it.  .........therefor  it is not  from God .......at least not as I know  God


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After all Jesus love for us is a perfect love. He gave his life for us.

Yes he did ........then he was lifted up into heaven .

Don't  forget that  he said .........If I be lifted up I  will lift all people  unto me.
Sorry  if the  words are not  quite right ......the concept is there.
These were not just idle words .
They were straight  from the heart .
Jesus is  STILL lifting us .
Not  just one or 2.
Not just  the  few that  say  the right words at church.

ALL of us .....
No exceptions.

gary