Electrinium

[resonanceman]

  Superlight could well be pure dispersion force or that force which expands all.
Contrasted to that is concentration force or that force which seeks to unite all.  These two primordial forces creating reality.  Both just as powerful both just as necessary for the survival of the other.  For without the light there would be no dark and without the dark there would be no light.  Here we are stuck in the middle knowing very little bit about the nature of either.

Sparks

I am kind of stuck here

I can see that  there is a  force  pushing  the planets and atoms  out to a certain  point.
I can also see that there is an inward pushing .   The  PDF  seems to  describe it  pretty  well . 
I can't  explain  the difference  between the inward and outward forces .

I do see that the  balance  between these 2 forces   has  created  all the universes
all  the solar systems  even all the atoms .
The fact that electrons  jump  from  one orbit  to the next  is  controlled by  the changes in  these   forces . 

[jeanna]

But don't forget the observer.

I think especially when you are talking about forces as fine as these you are referring to, you must remember the observer.

IMHO, of course.

I am not suggesting that you should be thinking your electrinium to create itself, it is just that as you are talking about these ultrafine forces and things like superlight, this is the arena of the observer and very delicate.

jeanna

[nitinnun]

Howdy Y'all

How did we get to a copper iron battery?

Element   Symbol   Atomic Number
Lithium         Li               3
Iron              Fe              26
Copper         Cu              29
Silver           Ag              47
Gold            Au              79
Plutonium    Pu              94

Didn't Mr. Summera say that the difference in mass of the elements making an Electrinium molecule determines its potential difference?  If you go with a copper iron battery the difference is only 3 protons.  A silver iron battery's difference would be 21 protons.  It would be better to go with a larger potential difference, mo voltage.  A gold iron battery would have a difference of 53 protons.  A gold lithium battery would have a difference of 76 protons.  A plutonium lithium battery would have a difference of 91 protons.

It would take experimentation to see if we can get any of these elements to create a stable molecule.  I think we need to go for a bigger difference in the atomic weight.  I think this is what is determining the potential voltaic difference of the battery function.  Also I have made a molecular arrangement which I think is what Mr. Summera was envisioning.  Remember that he had stated that the silver iron molecules will not bond to the silicon by them selves.  Borozon has to be added to the mixture to convince the silver iron molecules to bond to the silicon atoms.  This arrangement is not scaled, I would like to draw it with a 3D CAD program to help people visualize this molecular arrangement.  Si=Silicon, Bz=Borozon, Fe=Iron, and Ag=Silver...

        +++            +++             +++                     Positive
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si-Bz-Fe-Bz-Si
Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si-Bz-Ag-Bz-Si
         ---                ---                 ---                    Negative

The borozon atoms are a buffer between the metals and the silicon.  Remember that silicon is a semiconductor and it needs to be isolated from the conductive stacks of metal atoms, otherwise the battery will be internally shorted out.  This is the reasoning for using borozon.  Boron is a nonmetalic element which when combined with nitrogen produces a super hard insulator crystal.  The borozon will bond with the metals and the silicon.  The metals will not bond with the silicon.  This creates an insulated corridor for the Electrinium stacks to reside, and the silicon crystal structure is only structure.  I would love to do this with atomic scale construction techniques.  Build the thing molecule by molecule.  Unfortunately we have to work on a larger scale...

OK, Mo Later...

copper/iron works well.

bismuth/iron works very, very, very well.

silver is too expensive to be practical. and we NEED it to be practical/simple/cheap.


bismuth is 83.
bismuth is the most diamagnetic of all the stable elements.
(i strongly suspect that diamagnetism and paramagnetism have something to do with the energy physics).

with bismuth, i get about 25% more voltage, and A LOT more amperage.


i still have to try the monatomic sepperation technique, on some of my bismuth.
first i need to wait for the monatomic iron and monatomic copper fats to dry.
and then mix those together.



.......the resistance still decided the amperage?

last night, i had a realization.

that voltage is magnetism that is standing still.
and amperage is magnetism that is moving.

so increasing the resistance in my middle substance, would increase voltage but decrease amperage.

and decreasing resistance in my middle substance, would increase amperage but decrease voltage.



that stuff about the difference in atomin number causing potential, reminds me of my theory about different etehric pressure.
that one metal has more etheric pressure than the other. and this difference causes electricity to form.


what if in my glue cells, there is a little pressure from lots of atoms?
a little etheric pressure due to atomic weight difference?
and a little pressure on the atoms, from the  constructing polymers in the glue?


bismuth/iron sounds exactly like what you want.
bismuth is cheap. only $26 for a very pure pound of it.



the author of that PDF is not perfect.
he was giving us "the best that he knew how to do".

it is less constructive to focus on building his limited goals,
and more constructive to focus on improving on his work.
on finding newer, simpler, more effective goals.

and i definitely feel that there is plenty of room for simplification, in the exotic chemcial concoctions that he talks about.


partly because the best things in the universe are simpler things, and partly because i cannot trust the efficiency of a man who cannot effectively communicate his idea's to other human beings.

he could write on and on about smaller details, yet not find the words to fully explain important things???

[resonanceman]

it is just that as you are talking about these ultrafine forces and things like superlight, this is the arena of the observer and very delicate.

Jeanna

yes  it is very delicate .

The  hard  part is keeping  my focus  beyond  my physical mind .

gary   

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

Nothing like a crash course in metallurgy...

Element   Symbol   Atomic Number
Lithium         Li               3
Iron              Fe              26
Copper         Cu              29
Silver           Ag              47
Indium         In                49
Tin              Sn               50
Gold            Au              79
Lead            Pb              82
Bismuth       Bi               83
Plutonium    Pu              94

Nitinnun, the bismuth iron battery would have a difference of 57, that's good.

I was thinking about something that is already this type of alloy.  Tin Lead solder might provide a experimental starting point.  A solder battery?  Tin Lead would have a difference of 32 which is even better than the silver iron battery (21).

I have been thinking about how we could polarize the alloy.  We make a small wooden trough with two solder terminals.  This trough is going to hold a slug of solder.  Use a soldering iron to melt solder into the trough, and fill the trough attaching to both solder terminals.  Then we apply a current through the slug, remelt the solder while the current is flowing, then allow the alloy to cool while the current is flowing.  This should make the solder polarized.  If the theory is correct, then the polarized solder should generate a voltage.

I am visualizing a wood trough with solder terminals that are secured to the wood so they don't move when the solder slug is melted.  We would have to make sure that the current is uninterrupted during the remelt process.

This method will not produce a product, but it may give us experimental proof of concept...

I am good at soldering, and have the right tools so I give the solder battery a try...

OK, Mo Later...