Towards Realizing the TPU

[Grumpy]

Is that a kick?   

Yes. Around the conductor but in two directions? One problem....

Your experiment with the pepper in water can teach all one needs to know.

[BEP]

Your experiment with the pepper in water can teach all one needs to know.

It certainly isn't mine.

I get so tired of claims of the magic of BEMF and quadrature (motor like) firing of separate coils to create rotation. IT IS TOO COMPLICATED and not required.

The thimble experiment is a simple homopolar motor. If you want rotation (real rotation - not jerking from one position to another) all you need are two forces perpendicular to each other. A third will be generated perpendicular to both of the two. Basic classic physics.

It is also how AA Battery+Wire+Magnet homopolar motor works.

The only thing I know to do is go back to work at the bench.

[Grumpy]

It certainly isn't mine.

I get so tired of claims of the magic of BEMF and quadrature (motor like) firing of separate coils to create rotation. IT IS TOO COMPLICATED and not required.

The thimble experiment is a simple homopolar motor. If you want rotation (real rotation - not jerking from one position to another) all you need are two forces perpendicular to each other. A third will be generated perpendicular to both of the two. Basic classic physics.

It is also how AA Battery+Wire+Magnet homopolar motor works.

The only thing I know to do is go back to work at the bench.

I am tired too.

[wattsup]

@BEP

Yes back to my bench after this stint with Mylow. I have a nice wheel but it aint turn'in. Should write a song about it. lol

Well I have been back at my TPU in the last few days.

Here is a challenge for the EE guys that I think if solved will lead to a TPU.

OK.

In my left hand I have a continuous supply of 1 volt. In my right hand I have a container with let's say 30 volts already accumulated. Now put the 1 volt into the 30 volt container to make 31 volts, then 32 volts, then 33 volts, etc. If you can work out a SIMPLE way of doing this a TPU will be possible.

It all has to do with working with gain and that means working with a proper and most likely novel storage method or maybe a novel circuit control or a novel way of using present components. So what can you add small energy into and have it grow with gain one volt (or a few volts) at a time???????

Well, in the FTPU the only thing I can think of is a core. The center toroid core has to be the center of gain. There is no other way I can think of. A capacitor will not work to increase voltage 1 volt at a time.

Is there another way?

While I was writing this I got to thinking about why we call a collection of capacitors, a "capacitor bank". This is a tremendous misnomer indeed. In a real bank, you can add any amount you want and it will add to the current balance. Add 100$ to a balance of 200$ and you have 300$. But in a capacitor, you cannot do this. If the balance was 200$, nothing less then 201$ will increase the balance but not to 401$ but only to 201$. That is a real bad bank. Well good for the bankers. lol

OK back to the FTPU which is still my target device to better understand the TPUs. I can tell you from my testing that the coupling action between the top and bottom outer coils and the top and bottom outer rings are very interesting.

The outer coils wound 180 degrees each at 22 turns (22 x 4 = 44 total) all in the same direction then connecting them in series, top half, then bottom half then top half then bottom half receive a pulse from my HP pulse generator. The outer rings are also wound the same direction (3 turns each of 12 awg copper wire) and are connected in series top to bottom. The two open leads are connected to a dioded capacitor to hold the highest voltage produced. Remember a capacitor is not a real bank.

The coupling action between these is incredibly almost 1 to 1 when you look at a scope with A at the feed pulse and B at the output seen before the capacitor bank. With this as I increase the pulsing voltage I can get a maximum of 60 volts in the capacitor and nothing more. So this is holding very well with the action of the FTPU demo. lol

The only thing left is to integrate the center toroid and see how to make this grow with gain on its own with 1 volt instead of me bringing up the voltage on my pulse generator. If this is done, then I have made an FTPU. lol

At this stage I am only looking at voltage since in the FTPU demo SM did not show any amperage ability. The amperage would then be worked into the design for the other models. Hmmmmmmmm.

I am putting a picture of the test TPU below. The outer rings are shown in two mobius but my present test was with the outer rings in series with two open ends. My next test will be with both rings in series/mobius since maybe this will help make it work with gain.

[otto]

Hello all,

@wattsup

how about to reduce the red windings to 22 turns for each ring?

Otto