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Overunity Machines Forum



Studying Shielding, needs some advice

Started by Originator, September 07, 2008, 10:03:01 PM

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Originator

Hello all.

I have recently taken an interest in magnetic motors and have some designs I want to explore. 

Can anyone tell me if there is a material that works to  null  the effects of two neo magnets being pressed together  + to +?  In other words, has anyone ever come up with a blocking scheme that would allow the two  positive polarities to be pressed close together while the material was between them, and once the material is removed, the magnets repel and work is accomplished?

This scheme would obviously require minimal "magnetic friction" as I call it, so the the shield could easily be moved in and out of place.  I have heard about mu metal but, have seen no evidence to  support what I am trying to accomplish.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Xformer

@Originator,

Would U like to try put  Tin plate in between the like poles, consider using 3/16 or 1/4 inch thickness.
post yr result if it works or not !

God Bless,
brian

Originator

I have been trying tin all afternoon in various arrangements.  The tin attracts to the opposing poles, and pulls both towards each other.  the thicker the tin, the more closer it gets, at around .25" they both magnets stick to the tin.  Below that there is some repulsion still, one side wants to stick, the other wants to stay close. Regardless, the tin attracts the poles, and breaking free of the field negates any work.

So far I have tried cast iron, tin, steel, and see no method to  accomplish the goal of interrupting the flux sufficiently to produce an work.

I do not have access to mu metal or lead.  I tried experiments shown on youtube using tin and spacers wrapped around both magnets to get a 'one way' effect, but did not even get close to what the the guy demonstrated.

My goal is to use a shield to act as a switch while the machine pushes the magnets together + to + in a linear fashion, not going round as I see everyone else trying. 


Honk

There is no known material to man that can shield magnetic flux without being attracted itself to the magnet.
There isn't any magical things going on with mu-metal.The difference between ordinary iron and mu-metal is simply
that mu-metal needs less magnetizing force to reach the same flux levels as iron in a closed magnetic circuit.
Magnetizing force is a decription on how easy a ferromagnetic core magnetizes. I recommend you to study
B/H curves of metalic alloys. Btw, you cannot shield a magnet. The flux lines are always present, no matter
what you do. When you feel the magnets getting weaker when experimenting with "shields" it is simply the flux
lines getting spread out over a larger area but they always find back to the magnet. They are just re-routed.

In your "device" you should look for "powerful movement" without having to add any energy. At least very little.
The "powerful movement" is must to create torque. And torque x speed = power.
Many devices being used to find OU motors is very weak, in fact so weak they will stop at any load.
And you don't want this. Thrust me, you need raw power. Good luck in your design.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

Originator

Yes I am learning that you don't get magnet power for free!  Maybe there are some tricks out there, but they aren't so easy to figure out.

Here is my concept.  Two magnets are attached to a flywheel with rods,  like pistons in a combustion engine.  I am only showing one section, there could be numerous sections, in various phases.

The drawing is just the idea, I can't draw things accurately with this software. 

The shield is "Down" (enabled) when the "piston" is approaching the stationary magnet with like polarity, allowing the piston magnet to get close to  the stationary magnet without resistance.

A gear driven platform that contains multiple shields spins around in sync to position the shields in place as needed.

When the piston is closest to the stationary mag,  the shield moves out of the way allowing the opposing forces to perform work, pushing the piston away. One piston is always pushing the other piston, back and forth motion.  There could  be the same configuration for attraction pistons as well, so that there is always push and pull on the flywheel.

The rotating platform would likely be above the entire system, not below as shown for simplicity of the drawing.

I  think that unless there is some clever method that I don't know for interrupting the field enough to allow the piston to approacg, my idea is futile.