Studying Shielding, needs some advice

[mangyhyena]

Wildbill, thank you for sharing that video.  Perfectly explained with one view.

Yes, there is something to this shielding effect and it can and will help to make a magnet motor run, I believe.

I'm currently working on an array that I believe will work without any added energy aside from the magnets themselves.  And shielding the gate will be of use to me in this venture.  No, I will not be relying totally on the shielding effect as my stators will be going around the gate.  But reducing the magnetic field around the gate will definitely help me get around that gate.  It will mean the stator will not have to go so far away from the gate as it passes, which will reduce the amount of movement my stator makes and that will help the drum to turn easier.

I just wanted to say that I've been looking at these magnet motors for over a year now and people who have posted videos on the net are the main reason I've gotten as far as I have toward understanding magnet motors and the obstacles that make it difficult to make them work continuously.  And I'm not just talking about the successes or people showing techniques like the one Wildbill posted, though they are every bit as important for my learning as other videos.  Believe it or not, it was the so-called failures that taught me the most; those magnet motors that hung up at the sticking point or gate.  I thank God for those folks out there who were brave enough, cared enough, to post their experiments for all to see and learn from.  If ANYONE gets a magnet motor to work that individual will owe quite a lot to each and every video and post about magnet motors he or she has ever seen or read, IMHO.  So, for all those folks who are working toward this concept and shared their information freely, I thank you.

If I'm successful no one will need to wonder how it works.  I absolutely intend to give it away as fast as I can in a DIY fashion.  I'd imagine you all here would be among the first to replicate it, get the word about it out there on the net, and hopefully improve it.  These magnet motors belong to the people, both living today and future generations.  And that's exactly where I want this invention to wind up; with the people.  For that to happen there can be no patents and mass manufacturing, at least until it is well established and considered public knowledge.  No suppression this time around!  It absolutely has to be a DIY product made from off the shelf parts and easily assembled at home following assembly instructions, a complete parts list, printable magnet pattern to replicate the arrays, and a cover letter urging people to photocopy the information and pass it along to others free of charge.  Can you all see a future where power is cheap and easy to obtain no matter what country you live in or how much or little money you make?  I can.  And I hope you all can as well.

[Originator]

Thanks Wild Bill,  very interesting

I wrote James Rooney a few times but no response.  Actually, I tried to build the same thing but was unsuccessful, obviously the spacing is the magic trick.  I will try it again now that I see your spacing. 

In the concept above I posted, whereas the shield is a separate section from both magnets, I am trying to come up with a solution using the shielding from the video, but I do believe that you MUST cover 5 sides of the rectangle to get the full effect of shielding shown in Wildbills video.  Perhaps a shield that covered 6 sides, and allowed for the shield to be moved out of place would work, I will test it.

The main problem will be the force required to remove the 'stickiness' of the shield to allow for the opposing forces to work. 

[broli]

The main problem will be the force required to remove the 'stickiness' of the shield to allow for the opposing forces to work. 

The thing to experiment with is just that. The main question would be is the force of two magnets facing to attract each other the same as the force they exert on the shield. The magnetic piston idea is the best one in this regard as it slides in an out and should technically minimize this force.

[Originator]

Well, I haven't had time yet to test WildBills video shield.  But the question I have is, what purpose does that particular shielding method serve anyway?  You still have to get two magnets into position where some work can be done.  The fact that one side of the magnets seems shielded does not translate into potential work from what I can tell.  Therein lies the same issue with all other designs, which is, to put the magnets into a potential state requires the same amount of work as is released. 

The only way to get work is to position two magnets into a potential state of power, where  energy can be released, whereas once the shield is removed, the potential is realized: movement takes place.  The trick is, moving the shield into and out of position with less energy than is being produced.  This is obvious of course.   

The two magnets that are shielded as shown in Wildbills vid, still does not explain a method by which the magnets can be exploited for power.

Many people have seen these shielding vids on youtube, but still there is no exploitation of that shielding trick, at least not publicly.

 

[X00013]

 If your serious about this, these are my best findings (( please keep in my mind I'm not right in the head ), there are alot more qualified people here to help you, there just not posting on a really old subject)). Lets pretend I have 1 inch long neos by .5 thick. The "power is within that one inch of eachother". The best shielding material results I have had within this distance is this.,, 75% aluminum 6061, and 25 % depleted uranium. My advice to you is to not worry about sheilding, ( it's not gonna happen, or at least , I'm not gonna make it happen) worry about shaping, or a combo. Now with that said, read up on thermodynamics, and rest your magnetic laurels on that. What i mean is the only available power in any magnet arrangement is the difference in pull to push, think hot and cold. If you take two neos and put them in attraction at excatly .5 iches apart, and they pull at 22 pounds, then you flip them over and they repulse at a different number at the same excact distance, then that is your available potential in the magnets minus mechanical setup, now with that in mind, every magnet is like a snowflake, it will push and pull in micro farads when dealing with small neos, this is a '"tuners" nightmare for a self runner. Hope this helps, keep it real and have fun, And post ur stuff on the tube, we all vids. Tanks 13