ZORZI free running thermic-air powered 40 KW generator (runs without engine)

[pese]

I mean:
Ask the webmaster from Peswiki.
He is the man that hold the contact to Zorzi
And must also connect IF HE PUBLISHED  that "News"
Pese

[Tom Booth]

This sounds kind of interesting (reading the stuff posted on the Peswiki website.

What I get out of it is something like this:

Use a heat pump to remove heat from a volume of Ambient air. Store the heat removed somehow somewhere (Maybe). The COLD dense air can now be rather easily put, moved into or compressed into a tank at relatively low pressure.

The air goes into the tank cold. Even if you were to throw away the heat previously removed, the tank full of cold dense air at low pressure can now be reheated FOR FREE with Ambient heat.

Wala! a tank full of compressed air at ambient temperature and high pressure.

So what to do with the heat previously removed and stored somewhere ?

Whatever you want I suppose. Add it back to the pressurized ambient air to expand it further creating even more pressure or velocity or whatever as it is used to drive an air motor of some sort perhaps.

So does some such setup constitute free energy or could it actually work ? i.e. have the air motor run the heat pump cold air compressor set up.

I'm having a bit of difficulty figuring out why this wouldn't work.

Edit: Well OK, air in a tank under pressure won't actually absorb much heat from the ambient.

If you compress air into a tank it will actually release heat or give up heat to the ambient surroundings... So, unless your heat pump gets the air really really cold and dense - way below ambient, once in the tank it isn't going to heat up much and won't build up much pressure as a consequence. To get the air that cold and dense the heat pump or whatever would have to work quite hard.

On the other hand, there was some guy (Mr. Tripler - 1849 1906) who could chill air down cold enough to liquify then ran his air liquefaction machinery by boiling the liquid air in a steam engine to make more liquid air.

http://books.google.com/books?id=_p9EAQAAIAAJ&lpg=PA406&ots=NyAjFpaC62&dq=liquid%20air%20McClures&pg=PA408#v=onepage&q=liquid%20air%20McClures&f=false

So... I'm still not sure I would entirely discount some such similar proposal.

Tripler cooled air down and compressed the cold air to the point of liquefaction then could "boil" the liquid air with ambient heat to run an engine which would make more liquid air. He claimed to be able to make 10 gallons of liquid air by boiling just three gallons of liquid air in his steam engine. Liquid air poured out of his machine like water from a garden hose, easily 50 gallons a day.

This wasn't some pipe dream. Somehow Tripler was making liquid air at little expense and for a time was shipping it all over the country in wooden barrels apparently.