The heatpump, with more energy out than in (FACT)

[DaS Energy]

Hello Mark,

"More energy and out is myth. It is real when it comes to the calculations for the transitions, but as everyone found out in history it can not be converted to mechanical energy, i.e. the cop 3x can not be translated as it only relates to phase change calculations. ,H vae seen this fail many times in practice.  Sorry for the bad news, its just the way it is Mark"

Example one litre of gas at 100 psi. The gas pushing on water. Pelton turbine wheel firstly converts 82% of the up water force to electricity.  Francis turbine next converts 82% of the down water force to electricity. Gas turbine then converts 60% of the leaving gas force to electricity. Total energy conversion 222%.

[lancaIV]

greater than 100% efficiency heat pump? You only have to look at the karpen battery.in that cell you will have decompression of oxygen gas at one electrode and compression at the other.one electrode cools down while the other heats up,spontaneous.a fantastic smash of the thermodynamics laws which no-one can contest and when i say no-one i mean no-one.

Repeating:
As source:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880531&CC=US&NR=4747925A&KC=A
and the thermoelectric converter-based by Karpen technology research- by the romenian Prof. Dr. Matei Marinescu
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19770802&CC=US&NR=4039352A&KC=A


http://www.faxmedia.ro/personalitatea-zilei/matei-marinescu/152.htmlPersonality Day - Matthew Marinescu Academician Matthew Marinescu was born on April 1, 1903 in Bucharest .... A few months after his 80 years on August 28, 1983 passed away Romanian scientist , academician Matthew Marinescu . He was born on April 1, 1903 in Bucharest. He attended Polytechnic School of capital which he graduated in 1926. A scholarship Directorate General P.T.T. gave him the opportunity to specialize in technical high school weak currents Telecommunications in Paris , which has obtained a degree two years later . In the laboratories of the schools achieve their phone and also the first invention was patented in Romania , England and Germany, microphone mulitcelular . It is also a time to study ultrasound specialize in automatic telephone exchange in London , because in 1942 to acquire doctoral degree and doctor of technical sciences lecturer in Bucharest with the thesis " Contributions to achieve thermionic amplifiers " . In 1948 it became member of the Academy and is also known elected member of Electricians in Paris society . It worked for a while , since 1929 , the automation of telephone exchanges in the country and has achieved great practical utility in combating disturbances suffered from the line. He made ​​contributions in a broad range of technical issues , including electric cars, sonicitatea , Automatic , thermoelectricity , cells internal combustion electrocomunicaţiile and electroacoustic . His " Microdifuzorul " (1932 ) was awarded the " Gheorghe Lazar " of the Romanian Academy . Matthew Marinescu has developed a new theory of thermoelectric phenomena and discovered a " thermoelectric effect " that bears his name . Holder of patents in Romania , UK , USA, Germany for a new type of " Oscilomotor " ( alternative linear motion electric motor ) - applied to compressors , refrigerators, etc.de also a new type of electric generator he called " thermoelectric " state gave all its patents for inventions . He is the author of a treatise " Broadcast Electrodynamics " (1957 ) thereof " under electrocaustică " from us ( 1953-1955 ) in two volumes, numerous monographs , studies and communications. Academy celebrated the anniversary of 70 years (1973 ) , acad.Remus Răduleţ reveals his " total dedication , passion and energy of craters in science."

Search and Research and Development never ends


Sincrely
             OCWL

[lancaIV]

heat(= brownian motion above zero-degree Kelvin) pump
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19901016&CC=US&NR=4963073A&KC=A
similar: www.papapump.com   p.ump a.ctivated p.ressure a.mplifiers


Sincerely
              OCWL

[Johan_1955]

More energy and out is myth. It is real when it comes to the calculations for the transitions, but as everyone found out in history it can not be converted to mechanical energy, i.e. the cop 3x can not be translated as it only relates to phase change calculations. ,H vae seen this fail many times in practice.
Sorry for the bad news, its just the way it is
Mark

Hi Mark,


That your disapointed, is maybe your choice of .........


---------------------


Combustion engine: for example 10 Kw and as we know only 30-35% to mechanical.


But he is producing almost a 30Kw of Heat, over cooling and Exhaust, use it.


Regards, Johan

[profitis]

aha @markdansie but mechanical conversions are horrid efficiencies.what if we found a way to directly convert to electric energy or direct to chemical energy at say,85% efficiency,the books balance may tilt in our favour.what if we integrated the whole heat pump energy cycle into a singular step to energy conversion,might make the balance tilt.