This economic meltdown is no accident folks

[triffid]

thanks for the solar cooker info yucca.I put a voltmeter to a crystal radio set  I put together from a radio shack kit.After I could hear a station I got .04 volts!!!free electricity to do something with?Triffid

[AhuraMazda]

Sorry Orbi but thats the way it is.
I know a lot of people are deliberately burying their head in the sand.
Very hard times are ahead. What you knew and depended on is going to vanish like a snow flake.
You better not belive in George Bushes god or you will meet the same end as him and his chronies.

[Yucca]

thanks for the solar cooker info yucca.I put a voltmeter to a crystal radio set  I put together from a radio shack kit.After I could hear a station I got .04 volts!!!free electricity to do something with?Triffid

Triffid,

Not entirely free, but free to you, if the station stops transmitting you will lose your juice. However a signal diode will rectify thermal junction noise, even in a faraday cage, but you need large arrays of diodes and very sensitive voltmeter to measure it, this has been tested and verified, there has been talk though of using nanofab to create massively parallel junction arrays that would give useable potential output. There was a guy always going on about it on the Steorn forum, his name was Charlie, he always finished his posts with the word "Aloha"

Yucca.

[triffid]

Thanks for the info yucca.I know too that you can get up to 10x the power a solar cell is rated for by shining up to 10x the sunlight upon it.It (the solar cell) will survive because a gust of wind comes along to cool it down.So use more solar cells and more reflective materials in your outdoor survival kits.Triffid

[allcanadian]

Here may be one reason the economy is going south This was posted by Gotoluc in another thread--thanks Luc.

@everyone, you must all look at this video presentation and reflect as the message is real. We need to work together as we are doing here to fix what we have let them do to US. 
Video Link: http://www.storyofstuff.com/index.html

Now think about this, the economy is based on consumption and if it ever ends the economy collapses--it's that easy. The worst people think it's going to get---the worse it gets because they slow down consumption. But it is a fact that at some point we are going to run out of things to consume like natural resources or third world countries will refuse to "give away" there resources for us to consume. So it is not the economy that is a problem it is our flawed perception of the world we live in, we were born to consume to the bitter end without any thought of the consequences. Is there a way out of this? LOL, you know the answer as well as I do, how many people do you know that would be willing to moderate there consumption or become environmentally neutral, LOL----None. So there is the answer you already know, there are too many people on this planet and something has to give, it is only a matter of time.