assistance needed: comprehensive design suggestions on HOD system.

[vonwolf]

hi jdcmusicman;
    I have seen dry cell's but no info on how to make them. The do look intresting but I have no idea of there design or how the work?
Do you have a link that could help me? I would appreciate it. Thanks

                     Pete

[Aveon Blitz]

To professor:
yes, all electrolyziers are basically horrible batteries and like batteries their behavior is partially explained by the physics of capacitors. unfortunately i don't know enough about batteries to crunch the numbers and come up with a mathematically "perfect" system, so i have come up with many ideas, but don't have the knowledge to test them in a theoretical plane.

to jdcmusicman:
i am not familiar with the dry cell systems, is the electrolyzier drained of water while not in use, or do you just have an isolated chamber where electrolysis is done so you don't have to worry about the electrolyte becoming more concentrated? any literature you could procure would be an interesting read.

i do thank you for your input and hope to have a final design for a cheap, easily manufactured design that virtually anyone could build and get the same results. my main goal is to help the people who really don't want to put the time and effort into making a properly working system and offer an alternative to water4gas.com, you have no idea how much i dislike them, they have the basic principles, but miss greatly key aspects, like hydrogen production levels.

anyway, thank you for your assistance with design concepts of brute force systems.

[Paul-R]

I am attempting to design an easily manufacturability and installable system that will
increase a vehicle's efficiency by at least 30%, 60-100% would be much better.
I would like suggestions on the design, I do plan on the system to be a brute force system...

You will get better results by avoiding brute force systems - e.g. the Boyce technology:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf
but there are several brute force systems in that link for you as well. If you go for
Boyce, join the workingwatercar Yahoo group. In my view, these people are seriously
ahead of the pack.
Paul.

[Aveon Blitz]

thank you very much, this literature will help me considerably, as i said, i hope to have an easily reproducible design with in a few months, given I have the capital to build and test different models. thank you for your input.

[jdcmusicman]

HI again,

Heres one on youtube  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQ8UNEgWwY
also look up EBN on youtube ...Type in drycell on you tube you have many come up
on it .....
Also look up sidyoung, smartscarecrow,hho4gas, lutherp40  all on youtube

Here is the link to my personal Drycell videos :
http://uk.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E88EBA04F43E577D

I have a 16 plate one on my car , and am selling these on ebay for $99.00 ebay user jdcmusicman
I'm not trying to sell ya one ,I am open source all the way, I just started selling these this week ,to get a little extra cash so I can do further research into this hho stuff... I believe this stuff really has potential

The basic design is simple say you have 6x6 plates , you need to cut 6x6 gaskets 1/2" wide..
Pick up some 2 3 dollar cutting boards mark out for the plate size drill some holes get some bolts ,
and slap it together..
Well if you look up those guys youtube , you see all you need to see on the principle of a drycell..

And as far as the electrolyte becoming more concentrated , I have not had a problem with that , which I dont use baking soda either , I use Sodium hydroxide and Have had no problem with that issue..
And Im not using strong mix either , I use 1 teaspoon per gallon of water and that gives me about a 20-22 amp draw when hot......
Everything I have learned on the drycell design I got 99% of it off Youtube ..
If there is anything else I can help you with just let me know ..

I will be posting a new video on youtube probably the next day or 2 , showing the setup I have in my car........Jdcmusicman
p.s.
And one more thing YES I HATE WATER4GAS they are a ripoff and they steal peoples videos on youtube to promote there crap...