EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill

[broli]

Lol the reason why I quite talking to him is shown by his behavior here. This guy is only looking for his 5 mins of fame. That's the real "SECRET" lol.

[broli]

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[Dansway]

Hi All,

Ok.  I did yet another build of "Juan's" motor.  This time I glued the rotor as to Juan's new instructions (4 magnets on the rotor glued in repulsion).

At this time I get NO rotation.  That is ok as I have a few more ideas to try out before I give up.

Regards,

~Dan

[nievesoliveras]

@dansway

Good job!! It looks very well.
Nobody has been able to make the rotor spin.

Jesus

[Goat]

@Dansway

As usual you have done a great job at trying to replicate Juan's magnetic mill but unfortunately for us we aren't getting the whole clear building instructions from Juan    

At one point when I translated Juan's information that was sent to Jdo300 in post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg132154#msg132154 it was mentioned that there was shielding involved:

DETAILS OF THEORETICAL DESIGN:
The MRU consists of an orbital rim or firmly attached to a base, the diameter of the ring is related proportionally to the size of the shields (ERM) who are predisposed unidirectional in its interior. This succession of shields must all be located in the direction of a single pole, negative or positive.

The magnetic propeller (HM), which revolves subject to its own axis inside the ring, consists of shields at the ends of magnets or face to face with almost rozándose shields predisposed to the hoop, to turn the propeller, the coats of inside the ring as of the end of the propeller must repel each other, ie signs repel them, starting immediately a force of repellency between the coats that make the propeller rotate in one direction, after this initial force begins A second phase of FC that as the size and weight of the shields at the ends of the propeller, will give an increase in revolutions or money orders. This, to provide a force of torque on the propeller shaft that is the resultant force we use to move any motor or dynamo electric generator, staying with the option to obtain a percentage of extra power when connected to return to ring and thereby induce them to the greatest force shields repellency. The MRU has the unique ability of its self-same energy and discharge it into higher energy repellency to the shields.

The MRU is not capable of generating electricity itself, but if you run through the magnetic repellency a mechanical movement which is to rotate its propeller getting a force of torque according to its size, purity and shields percentage of cargo downloading.

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION OF THE MATERIALS
It is important to mention that the basic raw material of which shall be composed our shields reflectors repellents are the iron of high molecular density, some of them being the most suitable manganese steel or steel tuxteno, also known as iron ore stone imam (Fe3O4) as well as those arising from the magnetite.

Shields reflectors, must be manufactured from a high purity metal, to have more repellency when provoke the cascade of magnetic repellency.

This whole exercise is born engineer to apply the laws of physics, molecular and chemical properties that are subject to the materials of the MRU. The MRU emerges from a comparison with the water mill, we will make note that this device is a mill in which the flow of energy is not lost at any time but completely surrounds the mill, closing a circle that we call the infinite cascade Magnetic repellency, which is to be the fuel of the MRU.

Then in post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg132907#msg132907 Jdo300 cleared up the shielding issue in #8 where he stated that Juan had told him the following:

8. There is NO shielding used in the motor in the video. I have discussed this question with Juan several times and he made it clear that the ring and the rotor only have magnets. The mentioning of shielding was just a translation error.

So now in post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg138328#msg138328 and subsequent posts Juan goes on to describe THE NEED FOR SHIELDING as in "Magnetic insulation and pyrolytic graphite mumetal"

So it looks as if there is shielding on the rotor magnets after all   

There are still a couple of other things that Juan mentioned that don't agree with his video is that in this post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg138354#msg138354 he shows shielding in a U shape but in this post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg138355#msg138355 it appears to be a flat triangular shape    Another thing is that he mentioned building his magnetic mill using ceramic magnets from a chess set but in the video and in Broli's post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg128794#msg128794 he mentions using neodymium magnets  

So all this to say that you should probably try to use the best available shielding material on the rotor magnets 

If the above quotes and posts aren't very clear it's because of the way Juan has presented/retracted and re-presented bits and pieces of information here and there and all over the place in this thread in a VERY confusing manner.  It would be best for him to start again and actually show a detailed build document without rambling about how great his invention is and then back it up with a better video of a working unit where he isn't moving the stator as in the Hamel spinner effect. 

Also, in post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5660.msg128711#msg128711 ChileanOne mentions "I asked him since when he has got this working, and said 1990! He says has a running unit 24/7 that he uses to charge truck batteries with an electric fan motor used as dynamo." .  Well all I have to say about this is that if Juan uses a bigger unit to charge truck batteries why didn't he show that one in the video instead of an awful video of a glorified Hamel spinner?

Anyways good luck to all who have the strength to continue to work with Juan 

Regards,
Paul