Faraday's Paradox experiment

[broli]

No need to be upset, if I'm wrong I want to be enlightened. So you are saying that the polarity reverses if the disc is put on the other side? I don't see why that would happen. If you tell me your method to determine polarity direction then we might work out the misunderstanding. Btw we can live chat too.

[gravityblock]

No need to be upset, if I'm wrong I want to be enlightened. So you are saying that the polarity reverses if the disc is put on the other side? I don't see why that would happen. If you tell me your method to determine polarity direction then we might work out the misunderstanding. Btw we can live chat too.

Thanks for having an open mind.

If you have a disc on each side of a magnet, the polarity of the discs will be the same in respect to the center and outer edges.  They will be rotating through the magnetic fields in opposite directions which causes them to have an opposite polarity in this sense, but they are also rotating through opposite poles, which will reverse the polarity again.  In the end, each disc will have the same polarity in respect to the center / outer edges.


If we had a magnet that had the same poles on each side, a monopole magnet, with a disc on each side, then the discs are rotating through the magnetic fields in opposite directions which causes them to have an opposite polarity in respect to the center / outer edges of the disc.  Since they are moving through like poles, then the polarity does not change again.  In the end, each disc has an opposite polarity.

There are no monopole magnets and I used that for illustration purposes.....but using two separate magnets that are separated by distance with like poles facing outwards will have the same affect.

We both know changing the direction the axle is rotating will change the polarity of the disc.  Lumen showed this in his experiment.  Yucca tested the polarities of each side of his conductive magnet with the axle rotating in the same direction, and the polarities were the same on each side.  Moving through opposite poles and moving in opposite directions relative to the magnetic fields will keep the polarities the same.

It will be easy to test this.  Rotate a conductive magnet CW and take note of the polarity on the right side of the magnet.  Flip the magnetic poles around, rotate the conductive magnet CW and take note of the polarity on the right side of the magnet.  The polarities will be opposite when they rotate in the same direction through opposite poles.  Do the same tests above, except rotate the conductive magnet CCW.  You will see how the polarities change in regards to which direction the disc is moving through the magnetic field, and which pole it is moving through.

Thanks again,

GB

[broli]

Thanks for having an open mind.

If you have a disc on each side of a magnet, the polarity of the discs will be the same in respect to the center and outer edges.  They will be rotating through the magnetic fields in opposite directions which causes them to have an opposite polarity in this sense, but they are also rotating through opposite poles, which will reverse the polarity again.  In the end, each disc will have the same polarity in respect to the center / outer edges.


If we had a magnet that had the same poles on each side, a monopole magnet, with a disc on each side, then the discs are rotating through the magnetic fields in opposite directions which causes them to have an opposite polarity in respect to the center / outer edges of the disc.  Since they are moving through like poles, then the polarity does not change again.  In the end, each disc has an opposite polarity.

There are no monopole magnets and I used that for illustration purposes.....but using two separate magnets that are separated by distance with like poles facing outwards will have the same affect.

We both know changing the direction the axle is rotating will change the polarity of the disc.  Lumen showed this in his experiment.  Yucca tested the polarities of each side of his conductive magnet with the axle rotating in the same direction, and the polarities were the same on each side.  Moving through opposite poles and moving in opposite directions relative to the magnetic fields will keep the polarities the same.

It will be easy to test this.  Rotate a conductive magnet CW and take note of the polarity on the right side of the magnet.  Flip the magnetic poles around, rotate the conductive magnet CW and take note of the polarity on the right side of the magnet.  The polarities will be opposite when they rotate in the same direction through opposite poles.  Do the same tests above, except rotate the conductive magnet CCW.  You will see how the polarities change in regards to which direction the disc is moving through the magnetic field, and which pole it is moving through.

Thanks again,

GB

Yes I agree with all of that. The only thing I'm pointing out is the forces on the stationary wire and not so stationary magnet. I tried many designs to try and shield this outside circuit but to no avail. It's the outside circuit that causes the counter torque on the moving magnet. I looked back to an old design I posted which may hold potential with some changes. Also a circular rail gun design that might have no back emf or torque.

[gravityblock]

I think your diagram is not correct because you are automatically assuming both discs are moving through the magnetic fields in the same direction as the axle.

Once you realize each disc is moving through the magnetic fields in opposite directions because they are both facing the magnet's face or magnetic fields in opposite directions, then you will understand how the polarities are different on each disc with the same direction as the axle.

[broli]

I think your diagram is not correct because you are automatically assuming both discs are moving through the magnetic fields in the same direction as the axle.

Once you realize each disc is moving through the magnetic fields in opposite directions because they are both facing the magnet's face or magnetic fields in opposite directions, then you will understand how the polarities are different on each disc with the same direction as the axle.

GB I'm preparing humble pie just in case either of us is wrong  . Doodle on the diagram to show what's wrong, if I got something wrong and still haven't realized it by now you deserve to shoot me.