Lets please use common sense.

[nitinnun]

there might be no such thing as "energy for nothing".
but there are many devices which "produce more energy than they consume".


these devices all have limitations, on how much "excess energy" they can produce.
but the excess energy, IS an energy profit.

[wizkycho]

We can not expect to get free energy out of a perpetual motion design unless it continues to speed up to the point of self destruction. If a load is added to a perpetual motion design that has a steady rpm, it will eventually come to a halt regardless of the size of the load.

You must also remember that a load is a resistance and there for any resistance will bring any perpetual motion design to halt if the perpetual motion can only achieve a certain steady rpm.

Free energy comes from free motion that a motion creates that is greater the motion that created it and a steady perpetual motion is a motion that uses 1/2 of it's motion to create the other 1/2 of the motion. A perpetual motion that will exceed to the point of self destruction is a motion that creates more of a motion then it uses.

Therefore, if you have a perpetual motion design that will not accelerate to the point of self destruction with out a added load, it will not create any free energy.

sad that you have so many posts and do not understand fe. or you had a glitch on this one.

lets say device can generate 100W from no input. if rotating slow at first friction consumes let'say 5W when rotating faster friction will consume 20W. even faster 50W, and fastes  is when friction equalizezs with max oputput of device. so you have max RPM for that device that doesn't have to be selfdestruct rpm. instead of friction you can use load. same thing. energies equalizezs and it is very far from selfdestruct. free energy doesn't have to give infinite ammount of energy per time.

if this is just glitch - post some more. if you really believe in this selfdestruct theory of yours, please do not post anymore. cause It just isn't So.

don't get this wrong, finding FE and OU is very serious thing to be stoped with such a loosy theory of yours.
please say you tought it wrong - cause you did.

Wiz

[nightlife]

nitinnun,

"but there are many devices which "produce more energy than they consume"."

Sorry, but you are wrong. There is no such device nor can there be. You can not create a equal and or larger vibration then the vibration used to create it. You can however collect vibrations and use the collection to create a equal and or larger vibration then one of the collected vibrations did.

wizkycho,

"lets say device can generate 100W from no input. if rotating slow at first friction consumes let'say 5W when rotating faster friction will consume 20W. even faster 50W, and fastes  is when friction equalizezs with max oputput of device. so you have max RPM for that device that doesn't have to be selfdestruct rpm. instead of friction you can use load. same thing. energies equalizezs and it is very far from selfdestruct. free energy doesn't have to give infinite ammount of energy per time."

Think about what you said here and remember that friction is always a factor, even at the start and it grows as the power created grows and they are just as equal at the start as they are at the end unless a resistance is added by way of the design and or physical input. Once a design reaches a steady rpm, it is consuming what is produced and if it didn't, it would continue to speed up until it self destructed.

We may be able to apply a resistance to a steady rpm that will just lower the rpm to lower steady rate but we can not produce more then what is being used even if we think we are using nothing.

Over unity is impossible to achieve because you can not create a vibration that is equal and or larger then one that is used to create the vibration unless you are using one vibration to release multiple vibrations that have been collected and stored.

"if you really believe in this selfdestruct theory of yours, please do not post anymore. cause It just isn't So."

I am sorry but it is so and if you can prove me wrong, please do so and if you cant, then maybe you shouldn't post anymore. A true over unity design would self destruct if over unity was possible.

We must stay focused on finding cheap efficient ways to utilize energy that is stored in atoms all around us.

[nitinnun]

there is no greater WASTE in the universe,
than to say that something is impossible.


if it is, than it is.

if it is not, than you are crippling your time, effort, motivation, creativity, and research effectiveness.
and that of OTHER PEOPLE, as well.


you lose, yet do not gain.
it is the ultimate sucker-bet.

it is perpetual NON-motion.

[AB Hammer]

there is no greater WASTE in the universe,
than to say that something is impossible.


if it is, than it is.

if it is not, than you are crippling your time, effort, motivation, creativity, and research effectiveness.
and that of OTHER PEOPLE, as well.


you lose, yet do not gain.
it is the ultimate sucker-bet.

it is perpetual NON-motion.

It is not always the quest, but what you find, discover, or invent from the quest.