Neutrino Reaction Generator

[hypersoniq]

I am currently working out the details for a crystal generator.

The Idea: Harness the energy from some of the billions of as yet untapped neutrinos (both solar and cosmic) that bombard us
every second, use them to set up nanovibrations in a cheap piezoelectric crystal that will continuously convert neutrino collisions into electricity flow in the crystal

The Problems: neutrinos (electron, muon and tau) pass Through everything (almost).

The possible solution... Grow a crystal of Rochelle Salt which is doped with Boron Nitride.

Biggest hurdle will be figuring out how to create BN nanotube structures (NASA plans to use these on the surface of manned mars missions because neutrinos pack more of a punch when not dulled by our upper atmosphere)...

Rochelle Salt (Sodium Carbonate[soda ash] + Potassium Bitartrate[cream of tartar]) is cheap and easily made by anyone... it is second only to quartz in it's release of energy when compressed, BUT it is sensitive to moisture AND is mechanically weak.


There are MANY questions to answer and concerns to address at this point, mostly because piezoelectric current rides on the surface layer, therefore LARGE crystals may not be as good as parallel thin layers. To avoid electrostriction, the output needs to prevent backEMF, so this will be DC tech at it's core. I have much to learn about crystal fabrication and general chemistry before I start trying to make prototypes.

The design goals are big, but the final implementation will be made as cheaply as possible, therefore this will make an excellent testbed to avoid the patent system in favor of an open source plan... (low cost of prototype construction, potential to avoid patent suppression if it eventually works). It's NOT overunity, but it is conversion of an as-yet untapped free energy source so it doesn't violate any physics laws. (takes an external force and converts it into useable energy... I'm just going to try to deform the crystals from within the lattice via neutrino hits rather than externally by mechanical means).

Someday it will move to the other battery systems thread, but since it's in it's infancy, I believe it has enough half-bakery to it to start the thread here.

Well anyway, that's my idea and this thread is my placeholder for it.

[hypersoniq]

I still must gather the raw materials (cream of tartar is expensive in the grocery store but I found online sources that sell 1lb for under $10)... but to get the ball rolling...

Here is the de-facto online resource to explain how to grow rochelle salt...
http://www.seawhy.com/xlroch.html

It will take me a few weeks to research and order the boron nitride, but my FIRST experiment will be a dual grow... I will keep meticulous notes and take pics...

1.) control group... Straight up Rochelle Salt (first seed crystals then a large single crystal)
2.) first hBN doped batch (adding hexagonal Boron Nitride powder in the seed and recrystallization stage)... I am NOT expecting a working device here, JUST to see what effect BN has in crystal growth.

I am hoping to note differences in crystal structure to see if
A) the rochelle salt is capable of lattice matching with hBN.
B) how it changes the visible structure of a large crystal.
C) does hBN alter the piezoelectric properties of Rochelle Salt?

I am definitely seeing the need to rectify the end product output to keep it useable, since the usual piezoelectric spike is a High output in one polarity followed by a low counterspike in the opposite polarity...


I don't think this will be easy, but I DO believe it could be possible AND cheap!

I must re-read Drannom's posts since he's the master of crystal growing!

[Shanti]

There are MANY questions to answer and concerns to address at this point, mostly because piezoelectric current rides on the surface layer, therefore LARGE crystals may not be as good as parallel thin layers. To avoid electrostriction, the output needs to prevent backEMF, so this will be DC tech at it's core.

Hmm, this doesn't sound like you understood how a piezo-electret works...
The current doesn't ride on the surface of the piezo-electret...it doesn't ride at all!!! It is an isolator!
A piezo just changes the E-field according to mechanical deformation (electrostriction).

I already explained this here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4147.msg99452#msg99452

Still, I didn't get your idea... How exactly should the neutrinos interact with the piezo? Should the "mechanical" impact produce any power, or how should this work? For as you already described, neutrinos almost do not interact with matter.

[hypersoniq]

thanks for the link...

the neutrinos won't be interacting with the main crystal, they will (hopefully) interact with the Boron Nitride embedded in it.

from wiki...
Piezoelectricity is the ability of some materials to generate an electric potential in response to applied mechanical stress. This may take the form of a separation of electric charge across the crystal lattice. If the material is not short-circuited, the applied charge induces a voltage across the material.

[Shanti]

they will (hopefully) interact with the Boron Nitride embedded in it.

Yes,  but how shall they interact?

the applied charge induces a voltage across the material.

Yes, this is what I meant! A voltage across the material is nothing else than an electric field! The unit for an electric field potential difference is Volt. A lot of people confuse this with actual electron current flowing, especially in this forum. The piezo will just develop an electric field, with a potential difference of xx volts due to electrostriction if it gets mechanically deformed, nothing else...(there will be no electron flow in the piezo, as the piezo is an insulator. It has to be an insulator, otherwise it would always neutralize itself, and so don't be anymore seen as piezo from the outside.)
It's about the same as with a permanent electret although it has several (kilo)volts of potential difference, you can't get continually energy out of it. Just once, to equalize the E-field. It's kinda the same as with magnets, where you can get once some energy out of it, when they e.g. attract each other. But then you need again some energy to separate them.