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Why not aluminum?

Started by Farlander, October 14, 2008, 10:51:47 AM

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wizardofmars

Quote from: professor on October 20, 2008, 05:23:29 PM
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professor

"professor" - please substantiate the claims you made in your post on the Rife thread.

Lie #1 - Please post a credible source for your claim the RCA Victor company built Rife machines.

Lie #2  Dr. Milbank Johnson compiled Rife's work and was reported to be preparing an announcement on the "Cure for Cancer." He fell suddenly ill and died shortly after being admitted to a hospital in 1944. Federal inspectors in the late 1950's - early 1960's concluded that Dr. Johnson was most probably poisoned.

Fact: Dr. Milbank Johnson died of a heart attack in 1944 at the age of 72, years after he had finished his involvement with Rife. There were no 'federal inspectors' or conspiracy. You can read Johnsons correspondence at http://rife.org/milbankjohnson/milbankjohnson.html - Johnson hadn't had anything to do with Rife for years before he died.
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb

Farlander

Hey wizard, keep that kinda crap somewhere else, you make me paranoid man...

So how about this coating?  I just talked to a guy who sells a coating, 2-4 microns thick, 10^9th ohms, he can't do tubes very well because it's hard to reach the inside but he said a 3" tube with 1"ID would probably be ok. 

Will not dissolve under voltage.  Can't we substitute this for the oxide layer?  I personally do not have a month to spend flicking a switch and changing water in a conditioning cell.  And I would probably screw it up anyway.

About this resonance... it seems to me that the longer our coils, the easier it will be to attain resonance... imagine a pendulum hanging from the ceiling... the longer the rope, the easier to keep it going.  However for all practical purposes we should probably be aiming to ring the tubes until a Phase Lock Loop utilizing a pickup coil can sustain resonance for us.  ???

professor

Quote from: Farlander on October 20, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
Hey wizard, keep that kinda crap somewhere else, you make me paranoid man...

So how about this coating?  I just talked to a guy who sells a coating, 2-4 microns thick, 10^9th ohms, he can't do tubes very well because it's hard to reach the inside but he said a 3" tube with 1"ID would probably be ok. 

Will not dissolve under voltage.  Can't we substitute this for the oxide layer?  I personally do not have a month to spend flicking a switch and changing water in a conditioning cell.  And I would probably screw it up anyway.

About this resonance... it seems to me that the longer our coils, the easier it will be to attain resonance... imagine a pendulum hanging from the ceiling... the longer the rope, the easier to keep it going.  However for all practical purposes we should probably be aiming to ring the tubes until a Phase Lock Loop utilizing a pickup coil can sustain resonance for us.  ???

Hi Farlander
That guy is a Jerk he behaves like that on every thread, there is only negativity.
Poor neglected Child.
People have to learn  to ignore,him I have.
But what goes around will come around.
professor

professor

Quote from: Farlander on October 20, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
Hey wizard, keep that kinda crap somewhere else, you make me paranoid man...

So how about this coating?  I just talked to a guy who sells a coating, 2-4 microns thick, 10^9th ohms, he can't do tubes very well because it's hard to reach the inside but he said a 3" tube with 1"ID would probably be ok. 

Will not dissolve under voltage.  Can't we substitute this for the oxide layer?  I personally do not have a month to spend flicking a switch and changing water in a conditioning cell.  And I would probably screw it up anyway.

About this resonance... it seems to me that the longer our coils, the easier it will be to attain resonance... imagine a pendulum hanging from the ceiling... the longer the rope, the easier to keep it going.  However for all practical purposes we should probably be aiming to ring the tubes until a Phase Lock Loop utilizing a pickup coil can sustain resonance for us.  ???


As to the Coating it comes that way from the Manufacturer the 2024 is very strong but brittle  or lets say not very flexible you can not bend it which would be O.K. for our purposes. However if you shear it you will expose the ends which are then uncoated and must be insulated with whatever.
I had purchased some Waterglas  Na2SiO3 for the purpose of coating the Plates but have not used it yet.

Alclad is a trademark of Alcoa used as a generic term to describe corrosion resistant Aluminium sheet formed from high-purity aluminium surface layers metallurgically bonded to high strength Aluminium Alloy core material. These sheets commonly used by the aircraft industry[1].
Described in NACA-TN-259, of August 1927, as "a new corrosion resistant aluminum product which is markedly superior to the present strong alloys. Its use should result in greatly increased life of a structural part. Alclad is a heat-treated aluminum, copper, manganese, magnesium alloy that has the corrosion resistance of pure metal at the surface and the strength of the strong alloy underneath. Of particular importance is the thorough character of the union between the alloy and the pure aluminum. Preliminary results of salt spray tests (24 weeks of exposure) show changes in tensile strength and elongation of Alclad 17ST, when any occurred, to be so small as to be well within the limits of experimental error."
professor

jeanna

Hi ,

I have been playing with waterglass and the Hutchison crystal battery this year.

In all cases the Alu dissolves when it touches sodium silicate. (It makes H2 bubbles when it does this.) .  It may take 30 minutes, but the terminals all pull away.

So, try it on a piece of scrap Alu just to prove it to yourself first. Don't waste a good build or even a piece of aluminum.

I have been thinking about HHO generation all day. Most threads agree not to use brute force, but to pulse the dc. I've been thinking it might work to switch anode and cathode at the same time you pulse the cell. Then the corrosion which is really a matter of electroplating one terminal to the other, will stop, because you are switching endlessly.

I suppose it all depends on how quickly the electroplating eats away at the one terminal... Maybe once a week is frequent enough to stop eating through the terminal.

jeanna