I've got it, now what do I do?

[Koen1]

Broli,

as far as I know you do not need to get any form of license to spread the word
of your personal inventions or discoveries to the public.
You merely need to publish it widely enough (so not just in one or two
obscure websites or magazines, but as many as possible or at least
a number of respected media), stating very clearly that this is an idea you had,
explaining your idea in detail, and claiming copyright on the idea.
That gives you intellectual property of the idea.
You may then include a paragraph stating that you intend the information
to be spread and used freely by the public, and that any use of the information
intended for commercial use or attempts to proprietise the information
by commercial parties is in violation with your copyright and your intended use
of the information.

This should cover the idea enough to keep others from patenting the idea,
or otherwise stealing credit, or keeping it from the public.
At least, it should allow the public to access and use the information freely.

Of course, if the information was ever patented or copyrighted before you
published it, you will be in violation of those rights, and you will probably
have to publish a formal retraction and rectification of your copyright claim.
But if you include a disclaimer stating that you have searched but not found any
precedents, and that you will retract your claim if any party comes forward who
had staked a claim on the same idea or information before you published it,
then you should still be in the clear.

In any case, if the invention (device?) is simple enough to build, it still wouldn't
really matter if it were patented before, as any person may freely replicate
any patented device as long as it will not be used for commercial gain.
So you may build any patented device you can for personal use, as long as
you don't sell the device for profit, and as long as you don't use the device
to produce anything that you sell for profit. Theoretically, a non-profit group
should be able to build patented devices for personal use by the members
of said group. And you may also spread the word about the exact details
and construction tips of the patented device, as long as you keep mentioning
the patent, the patent number, and the patent holder, and as long as you
keep pointing out that it is in fact patented and that commercial use is not
allowed without licensing from the patent holder.

So you see, a patent is not necessarily the huge obstacle it may seem to be.
It only blocks any commercial exploitation of an idea by anyone other than the
patent holder. It does not block the public from gaining knowledge about the
patented concept, nor does it block anyone from building or using the concept
in a non-commercial way.

Instead of accusing me or being ignorant, perhaps you should think some more
before you post accusations?
If he just wants the idea to become public, he must simply make it public and
claim copyright for the atricle, monologue, paper, or whatever medium he wants
to use to put his idea to the public. Even if it turns out that it was already patented
he can just write an article explaining the patent and referring clearly to the patent,
and if it is copyrigted he can write an article linking or referring to the copyrighted
article and discussing certain points that he deems important.
Nobody can keep you from spreading an idea, even if someone else had the idea before you.

[AhuraMazda]

If you look at Thane Heins perpetia thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.3360
It is 84 pages and I think he was talking the same stuff that you are saying now. I don't know if anyone ever
replicated it.

If you have something just say what you have. No one can patents something that is publically disclosed.

The enemy has smashed the door and is coming in. No amount of money will save any of us.
Do you have the silver bullet?

[spinner]

If you look at Thane Heins perpetia thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.3360
It is 84 pages and I think he was talking the same stuff that you are saying now. I don't know if anyone ever
replicated it.

If you have something just say what you have. No one can patents something that is publically disclosed.

The enemy has smashed the door and is coming in. No amount of money will save any of us.
Do you have the silver bullet?

Yes, and look for all the similar claims made over the last centuries...

First, you should check out the history, many thousands of (nonworking!) patents made throughout the years...

I'm not sure, but it appears you're not aware of this. ?

OK; the chances you've really got something (FE/OU/PM) are - minuscule... 

Think about your discovery, your prototype, energy conversions involved, physics, maths,....

Of course, with a decent proof of a concept device you'll win the trophy in no time...

No need to disclose your discovery here if you have other plans. But I would advise you to look for some knowledgable / competent person(s) you can trust (close friends?) to check out your (FE) concept.

Don't start another FE tale, if you're not sure about the result....
OK?

[innovation_station]

in my experience  just give it away public for all for free

you know how the universe works??? 

it will give back in return many times fold!!

but you must first transmitt  in ordor to recieve   

i have seen this first hand....

ist

[captainpecan]

Don't start another FE tale, if you're not sure about the result....

I 100% agree... believe me. That's why I'm trying to not say I have proven it to be the greatest ever... Because the fact is, I only have very good results, with a small protype, built virtually with garbage, lol... It does prove the concept, however. And with my "personal" testing, it's shows free energy. But my personal testing doesn't mean a damn thing, lol. I'm very aware of that.

I do appreciate these replies. And no fear, whether I get it finished and totally proven or not, I'm going to release it right here. Even if it ends up not being what I believe it is, maybe one of you could help with that last bit of knowledge that could make it a go. I just want to make sure if it really is what I believe, someone doesn't take the knowledge, patent it, and screw us all by not releasing it.