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Overunity Machines Forum



A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION

Started by magnetman12003, November 15, 2008, 02:45:46 PM

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wattsup

@TK

Regarding your second video, I always tell guys who work on such wheels that the most important part of the system will be how well balanced the wheel is without any additions. Meaning if removed all moving shifting parts from the wheel and you slowly turn the wheel a few degrees and let it go, it should not move. If it backs up a few degrees or forward a few degrees, this means the initial wheel is not balanced or off centered and therefore at a certain stage in the rotation, the completed system will have to overcome that imbalance. Most times this is what kills the deal. Balancing the wheel is of prime importance.

Last point is the ratio of weight of the shifting components versus the weight of the total wheel. This is where you can develop some inertia if the ratio is favorable to the shifting components. Yes I know even one gram on the right should do it but if the wheel itself is off by a few grams, you're cooked.

My last wheel was water jet cut in solid 3/4" aluminum plate stock then totally balanced and I though it would be light enough but my eight 3/4" steel balls were still not heavy enough. When I get the time I will make another one this time out of 1" plastic stock and use 1" steel balls as the shifters.

You can see it here, just go down from the link point to the images. It's a long post.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3070.msg45101#msg45101

With such a design I am using both the top and bottom parts of each circle to effect the ball. Just as is it almost goes on its own but the wheel weight is just to much. It would work with a magnet system but I am as stubborn as they get so I wanted to do this without magnets. All I need is a slight push for 5 degrees.

TinselKoala

Your point?

My mondrasek wheel is pretty well balanced, as you can see in the videos. It's turning on sapphire ball bearings. An imbalance of less than one gram is plenty sufficient to get it turning.

You claim your wheel would work "with a magnet system".

One wonders why, then, you haven't shown it. The thousand dollar prize would have gone a long way towards helping you do it without magnets.

Please build your wheel and show it running with magnets, as you claim.

magnetman12003

Hi Guys, Remember those box tracks that first started this thread?

Well if anyone made them they can be used as a "VARIABLE SIZE" huge ring magnet as I discovered. Simply by adjusting 4 box tracks as per the illustrations. No problems with corner areas.when  building the magnet gravity device.

The center point acts just like the huge ring magnet laying next to the box tracks.

I plan to use them if my large ring magnet does not work out building the magnet/gravity motor device.

Tom

magnetman12003


magnetman12003

Quote from: wattsup on December 08, 2008, 01:31:24 AM
@TK

Regarding your second video, I always tell guys who work on such wheels that the most important part of the system will be how well balanced the wheel is without any additions. Meaning if removed all moving shifting parts from the wheel and you slowly turn the wheel a few degrees and let it go, it should not move. If it backs up a few degrees or forward a few degrees, this means the initial wheel is not balanced or off centered and therefore at a certain stage in the rotation, the completed system will have to overcome that imbalance. Most times this is what kills the deal. Balancing the wheel is of prime importance.

Last point is the ratio of weight of the shifting components versus the weight of the total wheel. This is where you can develop some inertia if the ratio is favorable to the shifting components. Yes I know even one gram on the right should do it but if the wheel itself is off by a few grams, you're cooked.

My last wheel was water jet cut in solid 3/4" aluminum plate stock then totally balanced and I though it would be light enough but my eight 3/4" steel balls were still not heavy enough. When I get the time I will make another one this time out of 1" plastic stock and use 1" steel balls as the shifters.

You can see it here, just go down from the link point to the images. It's a long post.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3070.msg45101#msg45101

With such a design I am using both the top and bottom parts of each circle to effect the ball. Just as is it almost goes on its own but the wheel weight is just to much. It would work with a magnet system but I am as stubborn as they get so I wanted to do this without magnets. All I need is a slight push for 5 degrees.
Check this video out.  Its close to what you illustrate

.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GhR-K10UjnY&eurl=http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Gravity_Motors