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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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innovation_station

Quote from: Koen1 on November 27, 2008, 08:18:43 AM
Are you seriously suggesting that the self induction of a
self oscillating LC circuit will produce more energy
than the original energy that was stored in the C to begin with,
and that coupling a number of these in a row with the
self induction of each previous coil being used to pulse the
next, abd that this will produce inceased charge????

How?


does your black and white need a little more red??


ist?

study the OZONE GENERATOR pat  i have said this much...   it took me over 1 month of study on that pattend to grasp it  ;)  it most certanly was not just handed to me as i hand it to YOU!!!!!!!!   i worked  WITH OUT MONEY  and damn hard to figure this out ......

THANK YOU  :) ;) 8)

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

sparks

  If you look at the patents that inno posted a common device arrangement Tesla used was to align the capacitor connected to the dc line with his motorized spark gap.  Time and time again we see the words near on or around the scource of magnetic disruption.  This capacitor is the same one that is fed dc current through 2 chokes or what Tesla first called coils of high selfinductance.  Most times he used motor coils to get his monies worth out of choking.  On energizing the mains this primary capacitor gets charged through 2 chokes.  So the capacitor is trying to pull a whole bunch of amps from the line but the chokes don't let it because they "resist changes in current".  They do not resist changes in voltage.
Or tension as Tesla would call it.  So as Tesla alternately discharges and charges the capacitor in his load circuits his line just sees voltage waves going in and out.
(This is a nice way around a watt meter.  Your power factor drops to zilch but who cares you got the voltage and that's what they suppose to be supplying you with the current is optional ;  not illegal that I know of it's called reactive energy)  Now Tesla takes this capacitor and shorts it out through a spark gap and transformer primary but makes sure the capacitor he is shorting is near the spark gap.  Why is it important to locate the capacitor you are draining physically near the device that is shorting it?  Tesla wants high frequency high voltage.  He can get the highvoltage with his air core transformer and the frequency can go up once the ciruit starts resonating but why the cap near the spark gap?
Think Legacy
A spark gap is cold cold cold
Space is a hot hot liquid
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innovation_station

@ sparks

is the cap charged from the surrounding elcetrostatic/magnetic/radient/die electric/aether feild disruptions?   :)

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

sparks

    Capacitor has mass spark gap lots of dielectric flux.  (Thankyou G for correcting me on the ion field dielectric effect)  something is going to get communicated between the rest of the Universe and that ion field.  Might as well put some mass in the way that responds favorably to the zpe energy field warp the spark gap is up to.  Captain Pecan sparks his two capacitors when he does that parallel cap deal.  He ends up with the same charge in each capacitor combined and possibly a little more from the electrolyte soak.  But Buzz pointed out his gain was from the plasma creation.  When a cavitation bubble collapses a plasma insues because of the way atoms respond to time compressed acceleration forces.  When you rip the electrons off of an atom the protons inside the neucleus arent happy.  Imagine all the mass surrounding the sun gone in a nanosecond.  I imagine there would be some sort of solar activity after such an event.
Think Legacy
A spark gap is cold cold cold
Space is a hot hot liquid
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Koen1

Oh really?

I thought what Buzz pointed out, and what was confirmed by others
like Yucca for example, was that there was no extra energy,
no energy gain, and that the apparent increase in energy turned out
to be a calculation error due to not taking into account the increase
in capacitance when two identical capacitors are connectd in parallel...

But now all of a sudden you claim there is energy gain in Captainpecan's
circuit? And now all of a sudden it has to do with plasma cavitation?
Sure.
Where then, is the plasma in CptPecan's circuit? Where does it cavitate?
And why then did Buzz and others drown CptPecan in replies that he was
completely wrong?

Why is that "ozone generator" patent now considered to be of importance
again, while only a little while ago in this thread it was repeatedly stated
to have nothing to do with this whatsoever, and certainly not be OU?

Do you guys enjoy playing three card monte or something? ;)