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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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sparks

    Any old school automechanic that has ever changed points and not a defective open capacitor to have the customer back in his face a couple of days later realizes that the capacitor is there to protect the points from getting burnt.  The capacitor is shorted while the points are closed and the primary is doing it's thing.  As the points open as fast as they can there is a great probability of creating a plasma that will  build in the same direction as the opening of the points.  The primary voltage causes current flows across this very conductive plasma and is enough so that the primary never sees a sudden collapse but an eased collapse of the core magnetism cycling at all sorts of weird current levels depending on what kinda plasma you got going there. ;)    Performance down the tubes and ionization of the metals of the points.  Now put a discharged capacitor across the points.  This time as the points open the current of the primary charges the capacitor.  This allows the points to move far enough away from each other so that the conductive plasma field does not have a chance to bridge the expanding gap and the primary current sees a very abrupt halt  depending on the ramp up of the capacitor. 
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Quote from: sparks on November 30, 2008, 10:30:54 AM
    Any old school automechanic that has ever changed points and not a defective open capacitor to have the customer back in his face a couple of days later realizes that the capacitor is there to protect the points from getting burnt.  The capacitor is shorted while the points are closed and the primary is doing it's thing.  As the points open as fast as they can there is a great probability of creating a plasma that will  build in the same direction as the opening of the points.  The primary voltage causes current flows across this very conductive plasma and is enough so that the primary never sees a sudden collapse but an eased collapse of the core magnetism cycling at all sorts of weird current levels depending on what kinda plasma you got going there. ;)    Performance down the tubes and ionization of the metals of the points.  Now put a discharged capacitor across the points.  This time as the points open the current of the primary charges the capacitor.  This allows the points to move far enough away from each other so that the conductive plasma field does not have a chance to bridge the expanding gap and the primary current sees a very abrupt halt  depending on the ramp up of the capacitor.

them the words bro  8) ;D

ever hear a ramp up lol ;)   verry kool  ;D

this is gain ... a positive feed back from the hemf on the input side ONLY........

your output is ...  a tuned resonant coil  i showed the amped spikes sine waves on my scope.... 8)

@ sparks

time to bring back an old video ....  you will remember this one  ;D  mit backemf lol ......wich SHOULD BE CALLED HIGH ELECTRO MOTOVIE FORCE  but whatever ....

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmMFog10D0

lol yep this is what i have learned to tame.... ;D 

1 more real good video sparks you will like this one  ;)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gfUuwnD2-fg

well im at it just 1 more

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-dXFkcE_Jhw

that is for now  ;)   folks....

ist! ;D

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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poynt99

captainpecan,

In your second video pt 2 (coils only, no rotor), you state you are getting some "free energy" because the final voltage on each capacitor after discharge is higher when summed together than what you originally started with in C1, even after discharging through a motor coil.

Here is a slight change to your circuit that will give you even more "free energy" after discharge, showing quite nicely that your setup in the videos is wasting considerable energy.

This circuit comes right out of: "Power Electronics Design Handbook" by Nihal Kularatna.

Just for fun, I simulated it in SPICE to see how much "free energy" I could get. I used your capacitor and starting voltage values. The coil inductance was a guess, but the circuit can be made to work with a wide range of values. The inductor "L1" in my diagram represents your motor coils. C1 is the source battery if you will. My "S1" is the power switch in the Kularatna diagram. Ignore the 100 MEG Ohm resistors, they have no real effect and are there only to make the simulator run properly.

You can see that the key to making this work is to switch the circuit ON for a precise or optimal amount of time, and in this case I used 18.5 ms. The result is a voltage of 12.43V remaining on each capacitor after a single pulse discharge from C1 through L1 to C2.

This is quite a bit better than any of the results you obtained in your videos. As I recall, all your voltages were below 10V.

The energy being wasted or lost in your setup is due to excessive switch ON time, and you are not capturing much (if any) inductive kickback from the coils.

Yucca put it well here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6090.msg138920#msg138920 when he said that in theory we should be able to achieve a voltage of approximately 12.5V on each capacitor after discharge. I achieved 12.43V in the simulation. The actual voltage required to achieve 100% conservation of energy would be 12.96V on each capacitor, based on a starting voltage of 18.33V for C1. At a voltage of 12.43V achieved in my simulation, this equates to an energy transfer of 92% efficiency. With a better diode such as a Schottky, the efficiency will probably approach 95%. There will always be real life losses due to switch and wire resistances in the circuit, and radiation effects.

The numbers:

Reference energy in one cap:
18.33V @ 4700uF = 0.7896J

Simulation energy remaining in two caps:
12.43V @ 4700uF = 0.363 (x2 is 0.7262J)
Efficiency = (0.7262/0.7896) x 100%
= 92%

Theoretical (no losses) energy reamining in both caps:
12.96V @ 4700uF = 0.7894J (two caps)
Efficiency = (0.7894/0.7896) x 100%
= 99.98%

What do you think captain?

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@poynt99

Well done simulation..

Now the question is, if the mechanical movement of the rotor can be made this way, that
it can back induce more voltage back to the second cap and the voltage
will still rise over there 12.43 Volts ?

Then it could all in all go over 100 %.
But you have to find the right mechanical setup and magnet configuration.

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Quote from: hartiberlin on November 30, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
@poynt99

Well done simulation..

Now the question is, if the mechanical movement of the rotor can be made this way, that
it can back induce more voltage back to the second cap and the voltage
will still rise over there 12.43 Volts ?

Then it could all in all go over 100 %.
But you have to find the right mechanical setup and magnet configuration.

Regards, Stefan.

bs...

lol

99 good work tho

im gonna show you a better way captin is too ...  the buzz is correct ....

i think many fail to see exactly how captins caps actually work ...

you dont need any movement stephen ...... 

NO MOVEING PARTS .....WHAT IM TRYING TO SHOW YOU ALL IS HOW!!!!!!!

sheeh  this is crazy hard to crack warped minds by lies .....

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!