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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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QuoteMy main question here is:
What happens when you charge a capacitor and then move the plates of the capacitor closer together?
Does the voltage and stored energy increase? If so by how much.
I didn't need to move the plates closer together, the static charge on the plates did that for me for free.

Is this a new source of energy?Huh
For three years now I have searched for any record of someone doing this and have not found any.
I don't think any lab has ever physically tried this.

When you move the plates closer, the voltage goes down, the current and capacitance goes up and the energy is conserved according to well known physical lawa published in books on experimental magnetism and electricity at least 150 years old. This is not a new source of energy, but a well known method of transforming energy.

As a matter of integrity, those touting the "Young Effect" as a possible new source of energy should read some of these old books and get a good understanding of the intense work done by pioneers in this field such as Michael Faraday..Out of respect, they should then humbly withdraw such wild claims.

The experiments being performed by the neophytes in this thread cannot be called anything approaching scientific method and are crude at best. They do not even include accurate measurements of capacitor values as part of the "data".

I am affiliated as a R&D consultant to the HIGH ENERGY CORP, manufacturer of ceramic and film capacitors. We understand the electronic physics of capacitors.

http://www.highenergycorp.com/

Look them up.

sparks

   Inno wanted me to finish this so.  When the ignition coil magnetic field collapses we have two things happening.  Twenty thousand volts charging up the spark plug capacitor and the collapsing field about the primary winding.
The primary winding is also seeing a change in the magnetic field about itself.
The points are open so there is no completed path for this voltage generated accept through a small capacitor used to clean up the primary current flow stop.  Now say we insert a capacitor and diode parallel to the primary circuit at this time.  The primary now produces a current that is in opposition to the current that produced the magnetic field saturation of the core.  This capacitor charges and once the magnetic event is over is now allowed to be the scource of the work involved saturating the core again.  This goes on until ohmic losses in the form of heat or electrostriction bleeds off the power in this resonating primary circuit.  So our initial work has amounted in alot of capacitor charging and current simply by stopping the work at the right time.
Now imagine if the coil magnetic domains just flipped over and stayed that way.  Nothng but a bunch of hot wire.  Dumb work.
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@Koen1 and others.
The Captain demonstrated that the largest increase in voltage was while running the motor.
When he connected the caps up directly to one another the gain wasn't as high.
The question for me isn't about the voltage gain measured between the 2 caps.
The formulas presented seem to answer that question.

What interests me is the fact that you can run a motor while charging the capacitor from the battery.
Then you can run the motor while transfering energy from C1 to C2.
Then you can run the motor off each of those caps while discharging them.
Where is the energy coming from  that runs the motor while the cap is being charged.
I think this is a conversion of time into energy.
It takes longer to charge the capacitor with the motor connected in series.
The question is does it draw more power from the battery because of the time delay.
I think the capacitor to capacitor transfer shows it doesn't because apparently
there is more voltage left on the 2 caps after running the motor then when the caps
were connected directly to each other. 

A good test would be to see if the caps charged through the motor contain more charge,
then the ones charged by directly connecting them to each other without the motor.

Discharge both into a resistor by X number of volts and time how long it takes to do so.
Say from 9 volts to 4 volts. If both take the same amount of time to discharge then the motor ran for free.

davidk

The part I don't understand is why the motor stops spinning if the caps. still have current in them, especially if it's more current then at the beginning of the test.

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