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Overunity Machines Forum



A new conditioning idea

Started by Farlander, November 19, 2008, 09:45:42 PM

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Farlander

Ok here's an update...

So far, I have not tested the + - + - + - configuration, so I'm not sure if it's more efficient or not.  I'm going to assume that given equal input power, it's going to output the same amount of gas.  Ravi however stated in his orginial Meyers replication document that multiple tube pairs boosted efficiency exponentially...  WHY you ask?  The same reason that drilling holes in the tubes is a bad idea (IMHO)

You see, one of the resonant effects (supposedly) acheived by Meyers is that of cavitation, or transduction, whatever you want to call it it is essentially transferring electricity into mechanical motion.  When the tubes are pulsed at their natural, auditory resonant frequency, a vibration occurs.  This vibration pressurizes/depressurizes the water molecules to the point where the orientation of the atoms in the molecule start to change, literally 'bending' the molecule.  This makes dissociation easier.  Just read the Peter Davey Heater article, it explains this perfectly.  More plates means more vibrations, literally vibrating the whole cell.  This would also explain why LONG tubes work better -- more pressure inbetween two tubes, because less place for the water to escape.  Drilling holes would counteract this effect -- it would be AWESOME if anybody could test this though, it would finally prove/disprove the cavitation myth.

I have tried dutifully to condition the plates with mediocre success.  After about 3 weeks of on/off cycles ranging from 5 seconds to 6 hours, from 12V 1amp to 24V 1.25 amp, drying inbetween and no drying inbetween, I have witnessed the formation of a VERY THICK COATING, almost like a rubber skin on the inner surface of the negative electrode.  Unfortunately, the skin is not consistent, possibly because I accidentally reversed the charge to the plates once during the process.  It seems fairly impossible to correct this blunder, and my layer has been flaking off ever since.

Good luck

Voltrolysis

Ramped rhythmic electrolysis conditioning of capacitor tubes changes the surface population of alloying elements in this highly chemically reactive environment of hydroxy gases operating in a strong electrostatic voltage field; all this chemistry is accelerated.
Iron, possibly the most reactive ingredient in the general stainless alloy family, is the first to be etched away into solution. So, since conditioning seems to go to a completion of sorts, then the surface is essentially being plated, in effect, with chromium, molybdenum, and the other less reactive alloying elements. This aspect definitely needs further analysis and experimentation as we may be able to move much higher than the reported 1700% over unity power gains.

Once this process is completed, the water dielectric stays pure longer, and voltage activities both rise and stabilize, with fewer ions (of any type) forming to created a current reducing voltage situation.

Bottom line, efficiency rises.

One important phenomenon affecting efficiency that is way under developed is the surface roughing, currently using sandpaper, of the active capacitor faces.... inside surface of the outer tube and the outside surface of the inner tube.

In future days, processes will be developed using lasers and or chemical etchants with masks (similar to cpu processes); MEMES. Here will be discovered the shaping of capacitor surfaces to find the best pattern for charge intensification through contour enhancing technologies; suface charge dynamics based upon shapes...aka lighning rods and Leyden Jar inferences.
I want to be helpful.

sucahyo

It may worth to try to conditioning the cell with radiant energy generated by Bedini generator or Imhotep radiant oscillator. It only good for conditioning though, since the current is very low.

Dave45

This is probably more towards resonance but is a type of conditioning but I read that Keely heated his metal and vibrated the metal as it cooled slowly at a certain frequency, this allows the metal to resonate (cavitate) may be worth a try if you have a way to heat the metal.