Joule Thief

[Pirate88179]

@ Hans:

Yes, I toast a beer tonight for the death of the rating system!!!!

I will try your suggestion but, I don't know if you noticed my post about running the JT circuit off of a single supercap? (2.3vdc, 10F)  I don't know that this proved or disproved anything but, maybe it did eliminate the battery from the circuit?  Maybe the caps acts the same way as a battery?  I believe I ran the JT with ultrabright LED from a supercap charged for only a few seconds (was empty before) for about 20 minutes.  I used an old AA battery for the initial charge on the supercap.  When I get time, I will explore more tests with this. Maybe supercaps take longer to charge up so I can juice it longer....I don't really know but, I was able to run the circuit on a cap only.  I didn't know if you saw this.  This topic is moving so fast I can't keep up with it.  Thanks.

Bill

[nievesoliveras]

G'day Jesus,

You have just done an experiment I suggested to Bill a couple of days ago in a PM.

I think I know what is happening here. When a Joule thief is connected to a battery the high energy pulses are fed partially back into the battery speeding up the chemical reaction, creating an apparent gain in output. Eventually the chemical reaction is exhausted and the process stops. That is why it does not work with a solar cell.

What do you think?

Hans von Lieven

@hansvonlieven

The photos I posted are not my experiment, it was somebody elses experiment a year ago at http://instructables.com .
It was a kind of competition they had and those pictures were explained in detail of how to build it as a self running lamp or something I dont remember exactly.
I tried again to get the link but it just dissapear, I just have left those photos.
My opinion about the charging and discharging battery failure is that in order to get more life out of a circuit like this one we need to use an acid battery 12v and replenish the electrolite with baking soda solution once in a while or as needed.
And the battery could last maybe two years as if it were on a car.

@ jesus

Here are the modifications , the 7 turn coil are for the joule thief , other coils are pickups 26 turns , and the both ends finish at the same place.
So you go from one jt coil(in red )to the other and back.

Make sure the the 7 turn coil are really close together ,make 3 turn and go back over it.

Thank you very much for the drawing.

Mark

Edit the 2 pickup coil in series light a 120vac neon .The one i used on the transformer thief.

Next step would be to ad 2 more pick up coils over the 2 existing one , In series making 120 volts per side or parallel to get 60v at higher amps.

@mk1

That is great!
The thing here is that if I can make it inside my head, then I can make it on the outside world.
Thank you!

Jesus

[WilbyInebriated]

@mdmiller

That's the ford model t secret, the first manufactured car was a hybrid you could get 45 horse power power no fuel , if special magnets where placed in the right position , the first 20 000 model t where like that .


And look at the bedini gate.

i have a model t, and all the ones i have worked on and/or rebuilt don't come anywhere close to 45hp, more like 19 or 20 unless you put a v8 in it. i have never heard of this special magnet arrangement. do you have any more data on this?

[Mk1]

@WilbyInebriated

I am sure i could could get you all , the patent, ford both the invention from Keely , Its the magneto, with 2 strong u shape magnet could rotate freely like in a Bedini gate, Make a search on google patent , on ford early patents magneto.

http://old-carburetors.com/1922%20Ford%20Operators%20Manual/target15.html some pictures of the magneto magnets.

Ford never told about it , he made a treat of giving them for free when pressured buy big oil not to make cars for everyone.

[Pirate88179]

@ Wilby:

That's 20 Hp on a good day, right?  That is cool that you have one.  You are correct, Henry did not get into that Hp range, even with his 6 cylinder experiments.  Actually, I am not sure that his early v-8's put out that much.  I just got done reading 3 books my father left me on Henry Ford.

Hey, please feel free to post a pic or two of your car.  Sure, it is off topic but I would really like to see it.

Bill