Joule Thief

[Cap-Z-ro]

We discussed the Keeley/Ford magneto in great detail on here previously...I believe it was on the Ed Leedskalnin/ coral castle thread.

All that was needed to get the 'T' running without gas was to insert a pair of cow magnets into pre-machined slots in the bell housing.

Regards...

[sparks]

   @Cap


     Something like GM's flywheel starter but they use permanent magnets all around.  Did they use a flyweel magneto on a model T.   The diagram below shows what happens in a dc motor armature conductor.  Now if the conductor is replaced with a permanent magnet it will keep moving for a long time.  Biggest problem is turning it off.  Guess you had to go out and pull the magnets out the engine to shut her off back in the day.   And in a torroidal winding the conductor doesn't move but the magnetic field compression does.  Very fast past your secondary windings.

[Cap-Z-ro]

Thanks sparks, I wasn't aware GM were also using magnets in their flywheels.

Magnetic energy is so readily available, yet only a few of us ever figured out how to harness it.

We need one of those psychics that talk to the dead to channel John Keeley.

Regards...

[WilbyInebriated]

ok, so it was discussed, did anyone replicate? i'm guessing not.
a model t engine is a simple flathead, basically four lawnmower engines in one. did anyone attempt doing this on a lawnmower engine? did anyone actually think cow magnets are going to spin a 63 pound flywheel? yup, 63 pounds, that's what a model t flywheel weighs. how many in the 'discussion' have actually put their hands on a model t magneto or bell housing?
sure it's a cute anecdotal story, but one with absolutely no substance. who is the source saying that keely made the flywheel for ford? keely was a fraud, this is well documented. what 'large' city was the demo held in? it was "reported" that it went off without a hitch and enthusiastically received, yet none of these people that saw it were capable of simply placing cow magnets on their lawnmower engine?
the t's heyday ran till 1927 with millions produced and none of the people who lived through the great depression used this 'cow magnet wonder' to power their cars? no one is currently running their lawnmower off of cow magnets either. go figure.

come on guys seriously, anecdotal stories are nice and cute but don't belong anywhere but the half baked ideas section unless you have some empirical data or working unit to a back it up. if you wanna get your hands greasy and try and get a lawnmower magneto to self run, i wish you the best of luck. have it and start a new thread about it. prove me wrong, i'm triple dog daring you 

[sparks]

     If you were inside a torroidal winding pulsed with dc and there were magnets all arranged with north to south and south to north basically suspended in there according to their magnetic dipole moments.  A WAVE of energy would be felt moving through the suspended magnets.  From one pulse this wave would continue to circulate around the torroid way after the pulse stopped as the magnets continued to move back into the groundstate arrangement.   Notice that the magnets are doing the movement on their own.  You have disrupted the spin resonance of the atomic neuclei.  Now I don't know or care about whatever got the neuclei into a state of spin resonance  (the electron does the same deal but needs another electron to do it with)  but this power can be extracted from the atoms by a catalyzing vectored magnetic field manipulation.  HEATING atoms and molecules is not the only way to destabilize atomic neuclear spin resonance.  Conservation of energy sure but how bout the conversion of mass to energy.   It's like a top spinning on a desk like at .1times the speed of light.  Touch the damn top and what you got is a conversion of the mass to kinetic energy as the damn top either burns your finger or goes shooting across the room through the wall out into the neighborhood across the planet and out into the cosmos.