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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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xee2

@ detrix42

Quote from: detrix42 on April 24, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
@all:  I need some help here.  I do not have an oscilloscope, and so I can't do this my self.  I would like to know exactly what is necessary, component wise, to get a joule thief to oscillate at 174,926Hz.  Or let me know if this is even possible.  A for any help.

Detrix42

It is not possible. The JT frequency shifts with battery voltage, temperature, and load. Perhaps if you use it in a temperature stabilized oven with a voltage regulated power supply it would be stable after running for a long enough time to temperature stabilize. But, I doubt it.

MrMag

Quote from: detrix42 on April 24, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
@all:  I need some help here.  I do not have an oscilloscope, and so I can't do this my self.  I would like to know exactly what is necessary, component wise, to get a joule thief to oscillate at 174,926Hz.  Or let me know if this is even possible.  Thanks for any help.

Detrix42

If you want to just use it for testing, the easiest way would be to use a signal generator on the base of the transistor. I don't think you will be able to get the exact frequency unless you use a very expensive generator. If it works out, you could then built a simple little generator circuit to give you the frequency. To get the most output out of the toroid, you would need to wind the secondary to get the resonant frequency of 174,926Hz. You would probably be better off using a MOSFET for this.

detrix42

Thanks Jeanna, Xee, and Mr. Mag.  I guess I will have to purchase a frequency counter, some day.

innovation_station

Quote from: MrMag on April 24, 2010, 08:10:03 PM
If you want to just use it for testing, the easiest way would be to use a signal generator on the base of the transistor. I don't think you will be able to get the exact frequency unless you use a very expensive generator. If it works out, you could then built a simple little generator circuit to give you the frequency. To get the most output out of the toroid, you would need to wind the secondary to get the resonant frequency of 174,926Hz. You would probably be better off using a MOSFET for this.

i agree mosfet and freq genny ! 

is the easyest way and not a jt ...   just use 1 wire .... !

just 1 wire ..

ist !
you may find a digital multi meter like i have that reads freq!  they work really well i have a expencive true rms meter and it will not read as well as my cheep one wich was not cheep it was 90 bucks ..  but my good one was almost 300 bucks ..  o scope is best it cost me 100 bucks .. and it is old as old can be ...

: )

can i ask why you want exactally 175 khz...  why not 180 ..  or just smack a neo ... : ) ; )
i made a video a long time ago ...  playing with 180khz ...  then i showed 2 tricks .. 1 was negitive grounding through the human body and the other was positive  antanna action ..  intresting my spikes grew big with neg .. and even bigger when i did the pos thing...

: )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYNEn8llXeU
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

detrix42

Quote from: innovation_station on April 24, 2010, 09:15:00 PM
can i ask why you want exactally 175 khz...  why not 180 ..  or just smack a neo ... : ) ; )

I have been doing some research in the TPU thread.  This is supposedly the natural frequency of Earth's magnetic field.  I thought if you tuned a JTC to 175KHz, this would resonate with Earth's magnetic field and use Earth's magnetic field to generate more electricity.  I have taken the core out of a flyback transformer, and want to tune a JTC to 175kHz with it, and see if I get any extra juice.  ;)

Detrix42