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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: The Observer on September 09, 2010, 04:15:05 PM
Pirate.. thanks the info.

Since an earth battery is picking up the supposed potential difference between 2 separate geographic spots,
         Then 2 different kinds of metals would not be necessary...
                                                                                                                as 2 copper electrodes work just fine from a regular Battery.

Are you using 2 different metals?  Or will just a couple of identical electrodes work?

If only different metals work...then this would be a good test.
                                                     Put your electrodes in water.. does is give roughly the same Voltage/Current?

Thanks in  advance for your response.  ;o)

Best Regards,
                         The Observer

If you read on the earth battery topic, that is exactly what I did back in the early days.  a lot of folks were saying it was purely galvanic and nothing special, so I used 2 lengths of copper tubing and aligned them on the north/south meridian and...poof...still had voltage and power.

Then someone said this was because of the difference in my copper tubes from one another from when the 2 different tubes were made.  I then informed them that these were cut from the same copper pipe.

Now, I use 2 carbon rods 9" long x 1" OD and a 5 pound block of magnesium with the N/S meridian alignment and the depth difference as close as I can match to the dip angle for my area.

I tried the water container with the electrodes but, almost instantly, you get degradation of the magnesium.  You can see it breaking up.

This does not appear to happen when buried in the ground properly.  Or, if it does, it is very, very slow.

Stubblefield was forced by the patent office to change the name of his device to include the word battery, as they did not understand how his coils worked.  We read this in his letters.

I don't want to go too far off-topic here so if you are interested on how we went through all of this, check out the topic here:

Nathan Stubblefield Earth Battery/Self-Generating Induction Coil Replications.  (Originally titled "Earth Battery)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3500.0

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

The Observer

Pirate,

Thanks for the info.
I wonder if sometimes a galvanic earth battery gets confused with a Telluric one.
Being that you are going to get a basic battery action using two metals and moisture.

Have a good one,
                            The Observer

P.S. Without looking...  I seem to remember that Stub used a Ferro Core Transformer in his set-up.
        You may know that I am adamant that Ferro Cores add energy to a system.
         (by means of previously randomly oriented magnetic dipoles lining up in an organized fashion/
           and collapsing by means of Anisotropic Energy as is utilized in a Basic JT or blocking oscillator)
         I surmised that his setup wouldn't work with the Ferro... do you think that is true?

Poit

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 09, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
@ Pete:

Welcome and good job on your JT.  You have already figured out something great to do with it by hooking to your home made battery.  The only limit now is the imagination.  Please continue to post about your experiments.

Freepow:

Yes, getting free energy from the earth is really cool isn't it?  I am still amazed by it.  Great job!

Bill

thank you for your warm welcome :)

I placed an order today for 6 spindles of cotton coated copper wire (recommended by lasersaber)... I am very keen to replicate the stubblefield coil setup ... looks very promising.

void109

I finally built a joule thief, so I wanted to throw my hat in the ring.  I followed the kooler backward JT schematic that's elsewhere in this thread.  Using a magnetics strip wound 2" dia core, and 3/9/15 instead of 3/5/15 (5 wouldn't choke off the current) it lit one of my LEDs at 2.2mA.  The thing that I found interesting in particular was as I added up to 10 more leds in parallel (could have gone farther, was late and tired), there wasn't a perceptible difference in brightness, and the amp draw did not change.  I knew it would result in some rather efficient circuits, but it was truly astonishing! 

I know I'm late to the JT game, but wow - thanks for all of the hard work that's already been done in this thread, I suspect I'll be tinkering with this for some time to come.

nievesoliveras

I could not find the earth battery topic by clicking @pirate posted link and I found that this one works fine:

http://overunity.com/index.php/?topic=3500.0