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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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resonanceman

Jesus

I was not paying much attention  when  you posted your original circuit so I did not  really have a clue about what you are trying to do.

I went back and saw you are running a pulse motor.
Perhaps what you need is something like a holding zone for the electricity before it is returned  to the battery.

Nice strong fast pulses create radiant energy.......Tesla called them disruptive discharges.......of course the discharges he played with were much bigger than we use here.

As I understand it in a disruptive discharge the inpulse travels faster than the physical electrons can move down the wire ........so for an instant there is something like a log jam of electrons in the wire.
In spite of this log jam SOMETHING passes .......

I am pretty sure this effect is why Bedini uses 2 batterys in his machines.
I do not remember if it was Bedini or Bearden that said that the  massless charge carriers will build up on the plates of a battery.....the end result is a battery can continue to charge for quite a while after the pulses stop.

The problem  with one  battery as I see it.   When your motor draws even a little energy from the battery.....there goes all the massless  charge that had accumulated on the battery plates. Without having time to reattach to electrons they do little or no work.

I am suggesting that you add a capacitor or something  to hold the charge carriers for a fraction or a second  before you feed them back to the battery.

gary


edit
After thinking about it........maybe a simple tank circuit would  work best.
Let the charge carriers slosh around in the tank until they have time  to reconnect with electrons.







nievesoliveras

Quote from: resonanceman on April 06, 2011, 10:03:54 PM
Jesus

I was not paying much attention  when  you posted your original circuit so I did not  really have a clue about what you are trying to do.

I went back and saw you are running a pulse motor.
Perhaps what you need is something like a holding zone for the electricity before it is returned  to the battery.

Nice strong fast pulses create radiant energy.......Tesla called them disruptive discharges.......of course the discharges he played with were much bigger than we use here.

As I understand it in a disruptive discharge the inpulse travels faster than the physical electrons can move down the wire ........so for an instant there is something like a log jam of electrons in the wire.
In spite of this log jam SOMETHING passes .......

I am pretty sure this effect is why Bedini uses 2 batterys in his machines.
I do not remember if it was Bedini or Bearden that said that the  massless charge carriers will build up on the plates of a battery.....the end result is a battery can continue to charge for quite a while after the pulses stop.

The problem  with one  battery as I see it.   When your motor draws even a little energy from the battery.....there goes all the massless  charge that had accumulated on the battery plates. Without having time to reattach to electrons they do little or no work.

I am suggesting that you add a capacitor or something  to hold the charge carriers for a fraction or a second  before you feed them back to the battery.

gary


edit
After thinking about it........maybe a simple tank circuit would  work best.
Let the charge carriers slosh around in the tank until they have time  to reconnect with electrons.
At the feedback to the source topic a member called @nul-points posted a circuit that replaces the charging diode that is very interesting. As soon as I get the LT ic mounted on the protoboard I will try it.
I will also try your idea of a tank circuit.

There was another good idea from @pirate too.

Jesus

xee2

 :-[  Deleted. Circuit had bad connection. I will need to test again. Sorry.

Pirate88179

Xee2:

Good to see you.  I will check out those videos.


@ All:

Here is another video of yet another new lighting device I made using 2 lights of America led bulbs and the modified Fuji circuit, driven by an old AA battery.

The cool thing is, and I show this, or at least attempted to, that each of the 2 bulbs in the double light are as bright as my single light and the single light is about 2 times the amount of light from my Lidmotor's Jeanna's Light replication.  I will not be working with any more cfls or tubes after seeing this.  LEDs are the way to go, like we saw back in the early days of this topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb7HUuFFJnM

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Pirate88179

XEE2:

I watched both videos.  I understood yours a lot better and that is great work.  I'll bet that you can optimize your toroid and windings and get that up even higher.

Excellent.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen