Joule Thief

[totoalas]

that clears everything on earthing lol
no electromagnetic  or magnetic flux when no power so basically its dependentthis cicuit is for daily pra tical application in an urban household
but if we utilize your circuit to use the ac wires as antenna will be great
wifi wireless power harness or collection using previois post for wifi diodes will likely bring us near tesla power lol
maybe i will try electric cpmpany earth ground for a few more test  without using neutral

thanks again
totoalas

[stprue]

Totoalas,

I think I got it now. Your APM circuit is connected to one of the live wires (Neutral) and to your water pipe.

At the Neutral wire (it's a live mains wire) there is 110 VAC available. Normally when one connects something
between Neutral and Ground then the ground fault protection breaker should pop open circuit and switch
off the mains power. This has not happened in you case because what you believe to be a good grounding
in your water pipes is actually NOT a good grounding, but something closer to a current path with a resistance
of approximately 1571 Ohm. This apparent ground path will give you about 70mW of power out of your APM circuit.

You have been very lucky that your grounding is not the grounding you thought it was! Because if it was a real grounding,
then you would have blown up your APM circuit or even worse, made contact with your body and killed yourself.

I will recommend to you (and everybody else reading this) to never make a current path between the Live or Neutral wires
and ground. The ground fault protection system is there to protect you against faulty equipment and is designed to trip
(switch off the mains) if there is a current between Live or Neutral to ground.

I did assume that you did connect your APM circuit to the mains ground wire and then to your water pipes
so that the mains ground wire was some sort of antenna, to harvest power that way. I was wrong.

GL.

I completely agree with this and have posted similar suspicions in another topic that this crt was in.

[totoalas]

Totoalas,

Can you try the attached circuit when you have the time?

GL.

Using gl latest circuit ac neutral plus water tap no load voltsge is 2.6 v dc

Using mains ground snd water tap is zero v dc

[NickZ]

  Totoalas:
   I have used this type of capacitive current/voltage source that is coming from the AC grounds.  But, that source is useless when the AC power is out. As there is no stray capacitive link to do anything with.  You will not save much by doing this, in my opinion.

  I am harvesting 110 volts from the house telephone connection, and converting that to DC. using AC/DC adapters.  The telephone company will always keep that going, even in emergencies, and power outages. As they will then run back-up generators.  I would not think twice to use that source in an emergency situation.
 
                                                              NickZ

[totoalas]

  Totoalas:
   I have used this type of capacitive current/voltage source that is coming from the AC grounds.  But, that source is useless when the AC power is out. As there is no stray capacitive link to do anything with.  You will not save much by doing this, in my opinion.

  I am harvesting 110 volts from the house telephone connection, and converting that to DC. using AC/DC adapters.  The telephone company will always keep that going, even in emergencies, and power outages. As they will then run back-up generators.  I would not think twice to use that source in an emergency situation.
I totally agree ...as with telephone power supply we now used mobile phones
To make use of available resources in plce of antenna
Apm2 is o.169mw  with ac neutral is 70mw
Until we have what aviso is using now will be better
If we can amplify this is just a matter of time
Jt gurus were  still waiting
Totoalas

 
                                                              NickZ