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Overunity Machines Forum



Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: gadgetmall on February 26, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
Hi . Thanks for the calculations . I don't know how they fit in on a circuit i made . For Instance  take an White 10,000 mcd led that supposed to take 2.9 volts and 20 ma to light it . well i can light 4 of them on .90 volts at .81 ma total  bright . So we are Lighting Basically a 10,000 mcd led with a Modded  Jt for only 0.20 ma rather than 20 ma  and the voltage output  is barley 2 volts rectified measurement ???:) . yep its all in this thread somewhere  . The Bemf on these are Playing a factor not in any calculation i suspect . If there is an explanation Its probably more In the Nature of a Higher Bemf or energy from the aether than the actual induced voltage . Again this is in a resonate Mod and the Schematics are posted many times  so i won't bother to post them again. But thanks for a Scientific Approach ! 

Hi gadgetmall,

I included the calculation as mere example for the induction formula, did not mean to refer to any circuits here (though the numbers are not unrealistic at all for a beefy joule thief).  :)
Regarding your data, a 10,000 mcd white LED normally consumes indeed 20mA forward current @3.2V forward voltage to light as "superbright" LED  @10,000 mcd and within specified viewing angle (ranging 10-25 degree).

So my question is: what you wish to say with your "total bright" description: is the brightness of the 4 LEDs (with the .9V @ .81mA input from battery) is about 1:1 comparable with the brightness of the same LEDs driven by a DC power supply at 3.2V @ 20mA each) and watched from the same viewing angle?  (Because the 10,000 mcd brightness comes out from a superbright type LED if your input is like the 3.2V @20mA, from data sheet.)

Do not get me wrong, I do not question the efficiency or COP of your circuit, I simply would like to understand "brightnesses".

Putting it otherwise, let's say your circuit is built into a electric torch case and you use it in total darkness, holding that torch in your hand near and above a book for reading it,  and say the 4 LEDs total consumption is  .81 mA from  .9 V: can you comfortably read, without forcing your eyes at all?
This situation is totally comfortable for reading in the above situation when the LEDs get 3.2V @20mA each directly or from a separate conventional circuit.

Thanks and keep up your excellent work,
Gyula

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To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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@IST
Yeah the toroid is Pastel Green with Blue on the top or bottom depending on which way it is sitting. All my toroids were ripped out of a power supply for the bigger ones and I got a few smaller ones out of burnt out CFLs. I'm going to order some off the internet so I know exactly what I have when testing.. Thanks for the advice, I'll try it..


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My data sheet on my tlc555 timer says it runs 2v-18v. Follow the link I put about JT 555 timer circuits and ppl are claiming to be able to run some 555 timers on only 1v-1.5v  I bought 2 tlc555 timers from Radio Shack for $1.59 a piece. Haven't tested them yet, but like I said, the data sheet say minimum 2v for operation. Radio Shack also sells a tlc556 which is 2x tlc555 in a single chip..

nievesoliveras

Quote from: jonnydavro on February 26, 2009, 08:52:35 AM
Hi.Great work going on here and i am following it closely. ;D
A while back when i made a joule thief powering a pulse motor,Pirate suggested puting a dc motor on top off the pulse motor top and tail fashion as a generator well i had a play a while back with the idea and here is the result.I have not used a pulse motor i have top and tailed 2 dc motors.The top one is powered by the cap which is charged by the joule thief and the bottom motor is the generator.Here is a video off it running.This might have possible feed back to sorce potential or maybe chargeing batteries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ynFm-JwYjY
@electricme.If you are still having problems with utube,let me know and i will send you the vid if you like.
                                                                    Regards jonnydavro

Good job!

Jesus

innovation_station

OK  guys i fired up my comp meter ...  ;D

and you all want mesurements .... lol

so be it

my big green coil is running 7.0 -7.8 khz...   one could say it is in a close state to    magnetic resosnance ....    8)

lol

also i will add a picture of the unit as it sits ... im makeing the second supply mk2 coil


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ps when i finally get the print screen deal to work with this computer i will post a comp readout of my coils for every one then scope shoots ....   sure i have all the tools ....  i might get to digging out my micro amp meters .... lol   blew 1 up already tho ...

but i have a few of them :)
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

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