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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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TheNOP

Quote from: Mk1 on March 07, 2009, 10:42:07 PM
@all

tesla showed us to make core from iron wire but also to isolate them , But why , since the coil wire are isolated them self.

Because the core is a coil.
also because you have more eddy currents lost when not insulated.

the reason why i welded my garden wire ends together is the perpetual magnetic holder device, witch use coils looped together...

innovation_station

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To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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Mk1

Quote from: TheNOP on March 07, 2009, 11:49:29 PM
also because you have more eddy currents lost when not insulated.

the reason why i welded my garden wire ends together is the perpetual magnetic holder device, witch use coils looped together...

My view on the subject is iron will heat if the energy is not released in one way , you may be able to get that energy out , use it and keep running cold.

As for the perpetual holder that is something else in my mind , and Ed did show how to run magnet motors .

innovation_station

Quote from: Mk1 on March 08, 2009, 12:02:10 AM
My view on the subject is iron will heat if the energy is not released in on way , you may be able to get that energy out , use it and kepp running cold.

As for the perpetual holder that is something else in my mind , and Ed did show how to run magnet motors .


YES YOUR CORRECT MK1..

BUT LOL  I CAN GET WILD HERE IF YOU LIKE ......

i have done a great deal of tests over time ...

regarding this style unit ...

TIP

i used a peice of pipe ... thin wall    it was a closed ring ...  i wound like 1500 turns or more on it ....

why did the steel pipe get supper hot ....  BUT YET MY WIRES REMAINED COLD......

also

here is the dammmmmmmm secreat  agin yes another ....  you must have a release ... MEANING HAVE A WAY TO REMOVE THE COMPOUNDED MAGIC / ELECTRIC .. FIELDS......   SO HEAT DOES NOT BUILD .... 


grab a darn drill  poke a few holes in and wind a collector in the pipe

MPI .....  ;)

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To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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jeanna

Quote from: Mk1 on March 07, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
@ist

My mk1 had 8 turns and did that to it didn't mater where the pot was , but i brought it down , otherwise you can't find the sweet spot , and by making it 4 turns i got a higher voltage at the right freq. i assume that difference consume more from the input. But that said if the resistor value is not changing the output result that could also be good at different input voltage . both are good ! But faster is faster.

Mark

Edit @Jeanna , it would complicate things a bit , so the gadget is not on yet.

So, it must not have been you, I guess it was gadget.

I need to get one of those good kind of pots so I can make very fine changes in the resistance. There is a spot where the resistance suddenly changes the output light to much brighter and the usage goes down, then it goes up again. It is how gadget got 12 hours on one AA with his fuji circuit.

But even with a toroid,

I was comparing the hi permeability toroid with 6 bifilar turns and a 6 turn secondary. The hi permeability gave me a bad result so I made one with the same 6 bif and 6 turns secondary but on a good toroid.

The regular jtc internal light was really blazing bright and took 21.6mA
I removed the internal light and the jtc draw went UP to 24.4mA
Then I changed the resistor at the base until I got a good spot and at 19.8K ohm I had 3 lights on nice and bright and the draw was only 4.2mA. The rectified volts were 1.6v

The next one I did was with 14 bifilar and 132 turns secondary.
The amps were 1.4mA without the internal led and 4.4mA with it and
3.05mA with the led on the secondary and catch this
2.6mA with 2 leds off the secondary and then up again to
3.1mA with 3 leds.

On that last one which was inspired by something slayer had done, I changed the secondary to go up and down like on the MK models and got these good results. Before that they were not as good.

So, I think having the secondary coil going in 2 directions is important.

I need to look at this one a lot more. I really need to get that hand held strobe meter. I think it will tell something here. I'll get it along with the multiturn pots after next week.

thank you,

jeanna