Joule Thief

[jadaro2600]

i did not scrape the paint off it, i broked it and checked for the resistance inside.
core capable of higher frequency will be less conductive, more resistance.

i rechecked, the piece i found back is about half a yellow toroid, resistance show 32k ohms

Thanks for that - it was informative.  I'm in a rut lately.

[electricme]

@Bill,
That was very interresting you said about the power company supply of "regulated" power.
I
n our town there is only one business, it has a huge electric motor to drive a grain conveyer, which loads the farmers trucks.

I have noticed when it is first turned on, the lights dimm down for a second then rises back up to normal brightness, then when this motor is switched off, the lights go very bright for a second then go back to normal brightness.
Same thing happens if something jams up the works.

Whats hapenning is the motor turns on, the windings see a huge short, the armature rotor spins up and the amps supplied to it seems to be amplified, then when the motor is shut off, the higher amps-power has to level itself out so it takes a second to do so.

I think my UPS sorts the highs and lows out automatically, when I check the UPS's log file I can see the ups and downs displayed, it matches the times this occurs.

Yep, Bill, if you got a big factory close to you that uses big heeps of power, then when they startup or shutdown this could cause those problems.

I.m worried about Gadget, Bill, very concerned.

jim
   

[Pirate88179]

@ Jim:

I too am worried about Al.  Maybe I can try to call him on Thursday.  I know his daughter was sick, and then he got sick......I hope they both are OK.


I have been very busy but I will continue the other JT diagram topic as soon as I can.

Bill

[Mk1]

i know why it behave like that, i simply didn't made the joint with what IST was talking about.
thanks

overdriving the base is not a real solution.
how can we limit the base feed when battery is full and amplify it when it get low.

the basic way i know would be a zener diode but that might screw up everything.
try your zener diode between the base and the - side.
using it as a variable resistor like you did can't really solve that problem entirely either.

That is the reason for my new jt windings. 2x on page 376 , so i don't need to go low to get speed.

[electricme]

@Scienceman,

Ha ha, well you sure had me fooled, I thought you were all grownup like us old fogies he he.

Anyway, since you are soooo keen to know about the Joule Thief, (it's a good topic and other stuff), I and the others can help you with it.

One thing, don't be intimidated by anyone here, be bold, ask a question no matter how silly you think it may be, you never know, someone reading your request, will have an answer. We are all here to find out about the Joul Thief and to get as much out of it as possible.

ScienceMan, this forum has a very open mind, on just about anything, I have a problem with mice, ohh man do I get my leg pulled, but its all in good taste, others ask by Private Email, if you need to tell someone off, because you are cranky, wellllllllllllllllll, count to 10, ha ha, some times I go away, have a cupa T, think about it a bit, and then come back and answer. If you think I have made a mistake, then say so, I will not be offended.

 
When you get it working, and become experienced with your JT, you are going to notice that some of the devices will seem to do things that the text books say is impossible, but if you knew about "radent energy" and Nikola Tesla, (which the education system will never tell you about) then things might become more clear to you.

I'm going to tell you about 2 names of people who made amazing discoveries and inventions over one hundred years ago, they are Nikola Tesla and Nathan Stubblefield. Both these gentlemen knew each other, and were good friends, both had inventions, both had patients of the discoveries they made. As you study these men, you will come accross others who have made discoveries. Sooner or later, you will "know" that there are things happening in the science world that dosent seem right in some way or another, this I will leave for you to examine yourself, the answers are there, just go a bit deeper to get there. Dig around and look for Patents, they contain hidden secrets also.

Go to your local library and get out the books relating to these men if you can find them, ask the libranian to get them for you.
Reading them will show you of two men who made most of the discoveries in the electrical, if you decide to take up a career in electrical, you will probably not be told of the existance of these two men, or their discoveries,and there are reasons why this is so.

Ignorance is one of the main resons, because people back in those days were frightened by the things they did, and did not understand, we understand them as ordinary gifted people and know they are OK.

For instance, if you could get hold of a Phero of egypt and time machine him into today, then he would be frightened of the car, the light switch, the radio, the washingmachine, the plane, the water that goes through pipes, hot and cold at that, airconditiooning, the TV, the computer,  what a gas this would be, then after he went back to his time, and told everybody about what he had seen, they would think he was nuts, bonkers, out of his cotton picking mind.  cool thought ehhhhh

So this is what we on the JT do here, make and do the impossible.
Look at IST, one of our posters, he is a very learned man, he posts in crypt, you have to double and tripple read his posts to make out what he is up to. If you know what he is saying, then you will understand.  Jeanna, the "lady" of the forum, she is incredably gifted in solving hard to find out stuff, she wont let go until there is an answer, most of us are like this, and I know you are one too.

The current way of the power mobs is to say there is only one way to make electric power, actually this is not true, google for "Cold" power or "radient" energy, there are other key words, you will come across devices that can heal all types of diseases, these have been suppressed. The "Rife" machine is one, every cell resonates at it's own frequency, so if you can put a signal at that frequency, the target will vibrate at it, if you apply power to this , it will be overloaded and fail, hmmmm.

If you get a car, you could make up a "browns gas" bubbler,or make up a HHO producer.

Power can be got from the air itself, via a vertical antenna wire, a sparkplug and a dead battery.
I have an idea to use a welding wire feed from a MIG welder spool, to do this, ha ha ha arrrrrrrr ist, fill a ist balloon with hydrogen (caustic soda and water and aluminium) this could be made to rise hundreds of feet high, even higher, higher you get the wire, the more voltage comes down the wire. Do this in a vacant area away from power lines. Use insulated tools or remote controlled rods and switches etc.
   
The deeper you research, the more you will find, there is another word to google "aeather" this also dosent exist as far as all the "science teachers say) 99999.99 persent of the world thinks this, you would be told you meant eather, a gas or anastethic.
Yes, there are discoveries to make.

Take a copper rod or pipe, about 12" long, drive it into the ground, (this is the North) now about 3 feet away, (to the south) drive in the ground a aluminium pipe or rod, now connect your DMM or multy meter to the copper, (+) and aluminium is the (-), and see what you have, set your meter on volts, low scale.

Pirate88179 has made several Utube videos you could take a look at.

Do a bit of research about "Chemtrails" and "vaccinations" at Rince.com

Save these web pages, as your data manual and read them.

Hope I havent overloaded you scienceman, I can tell that you are going to go real places and make discoveries.

So ScienceMan, I like all the others here will look forward to seeing your photos of your JT and the posts you make.


jim