Joule Thief

[electricme]

@jadaro2600,

Your idea of making a benchmark is worthy, but as you have also realise, we all have different torrids and setups, and I am about to post another setup, which to my thinking has never been done before, anywhere at all.


Your above post has jogged my memory.
For some time I have been thinking of a way to harness the magnetic flow "inside" the torid, not winding a wire around the outside of the torid.

1 wind a coil of copper wire on a broom handle, take the "coil" off the broom handle and carefully bring both coil ends around to face each other.

2 get a former, say a cake baking tray that has a centre hole in it. (It makes donut cakes).

3 make up a mixture of iron filings, and if you can, powder a torrid or 10 and mix the lot up in some binding agent, say glue, lots of araldite slow setting stuff.

4 poor some of this mix into the former tray.

5 lift the coil you just made, and plonk it inside the baking tray.

6 poor in the rest of the mix and let it all set.

This is the only way to make your own torid to see if you can capture the flowing magnetic field in a torid.


I havent see ist posting for awhile, hmmmm ist, is all ok with you?


I got 2 micies, eeeeehhhhhhr

jim

[xenomorphlabs]

Gosh! ...I'll just have to scrape the paint off one and check.  ..and it doesn't appear to conduct.

Next time, to help telling someone to Google it appear less lazy and rude, you should just craft the search url for Googling it like this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Eddy+currents&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= that way it makes it actually look like you've helped.

Telling someone to Google it is like telling them to go to the library ...want to hit it more on the head - just tell them to shell-out 40k for a college education.

Please add to your user profile that you want to be treated with velvet gloves in this forum.
If you take offense even in well-meant replies addressed to you, then you might have had a bad day?
All you are saying is YOUR interpretation, i was just trying to help, which was obviously a waste of time.

[gadgetmall]

Hey Al, you can't post the HAARP plans here, we will get into trouble.  Where is Tesla when we need him?


Bill

Hi Bill as you can see i'm a bit TEEED :)Because everyone is getting sick and sicker of the Pathogens and poison in our air.   Anyways what i posted is Public Domain (well in another country at least )  and i assure you the HARRP plans are Public Domain as well . Its a Very high powered Very Low Frequency Meggawatt Transmitter . It is very Simular to Teslas Peace Ray .

@jarado
And no Jarado its not "oil Vapor" i live near an air base also .(actually i am at ground ZERO 50 miles between three major airbases)  they are very careful about there exauses .. What i'm talking about is the SPRAYING Chemtrails . If you have a good telescope like i do you can see its not exhaust from the motors . As far as Experimenting with Ignition Coils thats a bit expensive and its cheaper to order your torroids than it would be to go to autozone and buy an ignition coil for 45 bucks .. Plus you can wind a much better Tesla coil with plans already on the internet . Mk1 has the best High voltage Design with the exception of the first one to light up a cfl and thats slayer007 . . You need IRON or Ferrite cores if your playing with the relatively low frequency's of a JT . generally its between 20 to 100 cycles per second and My feelings are the core is needed to propagate the BEMF pulses that are generated at these low Frequency's .. . Way way back at the beginning we discussed using Nails and such which do work fine as does air core and coils but not very good for a secondary winding which is where the kick is.

@electric me .. Nice work there Mate . You know you could add some crystals ans other metal shavings with your Internal clockwise coil core and have one nice orgone generator . they sell cans of resin at the hobby store and that would mix well with the Shavings ,, Nice movie links  . I saved them and got them on my site now  and EVERYONE should see them .. Thanks

@all the Ideal Joule Thief will Make Lots of light with a minimum of current draw and several designs here supersede  any design on the internet . Groundloop has one of the first designs which incorporates a capacitor with a Jt and Drastically reduces and on timing which is where your current is going ,, jeanna and Mk1 along with mrmag and countless others have reduced the input to as little as .20 ma per led . unheard of but then again we are using PAC to power the leds. they are designed for dc not PAC  so unexpected results will occur . . Now if we can take a Jt and power a FL tube with .20 ma is an achievement . this will be accomplished with more windings on a secondary and better tuning of the primary with caps and resistors ,, i know i can light a cfl with as little as 9 ma from a Fugi so it can be done on a torroid.. that is in itself an achievement because the best circuit on Public Domain is 14 ma full bright led . We beat that By 13.80 ma .. Now lets capture more of the wasted energy inside of a torroid .
Where is IST  ?

GADGET

Gadget

[Pirate88179]

@ Al:

I was just kidding about HAARP.  It was 1:00 a.m. and I just got back from 10 hours of surveillance and I was a little giddy I suppose.  I thought it was funny at the time, ha ha.  Glad to see you are better.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

@ Jim:

You mentioned a variation of this idea a while back to make our own large toroids and now you have added placing a coil inside the toroid.  This idea is totally unique and intriguing. Excellent idea!  I might suggest that a conductive glue or cement be used?  Electronics goldmine sells some.  Of course, it would be good to know what they put in it to make it conductive and that might make it hard to control the process and values of this toroid in future mixes.

I really like your idea of crushing up smaller toroids and throwing them into the mix.  It would not be hard to make a powder out of them. (Using safety glasses of course)  And at $1.00 for a bag of 5 one inch toroids from goldmine, for a few buck a lot of the same material could be obtained.

I just had a thought that might be easier to try the properties of the mix prior to using the glue.  Remember my tube lamp experiments with the plastic tubing?  What if I made a circle of the same tubing, and dumped all of my mix (in powder form) into it and then closed the circle.  Then, I could wrap bifilar in a standard JT set-up and see if this particular mix worked.  If it does, and the values look good for tuning, then we break out the glue and your cake pan and make a very large version.  I believe my test idea will work ok as the fairly thin wall of the clear plastic tubing should not block any of the magnetic properties of the ferrite/mix.  Just a suggestion to your already outstanding idea there.  I hope I can get some time soon to try it.  I am going back out again for another long night.

Keep your brilliant ideas coming.

Bill