Joule Thief

[Koen1]

@Wilby: that Bedini battery stuff was from Bedini and Bearden themselves,
if you call that "hearsay", then everything Bedini said about his motors is "hearsay".
Whether or not I built an SG does not change that, so that is irrelevant to the point.

But hey, apparently it is difficult to stick to the issue, and even more difficult to
simply state what grand discoveries have been divulged that I have apparently missed.

Fine.

I won't bother you with all those difficult questions anymore.
Have fun tinkering endlessly.
Bye.

[stprue]

@all

Has anybody used a carbon rod or other shape to make a JT?  If so what were your results?

[WilbyInebriated]

@Wilby: that Bedini battery stuff was from Bedini and Bearden themselves,
if you call that "hearsay", then everything Bedini said about his motors is "hearsay".
Whether or not I built an SG does not change that, so that is irrelevant to the point.

But hey, apparently it is difficult to stick to the issue, and even more difficult to
simply state what grand discoveries have been divulged that I have apparently missed.

Fine.

I won't bother you with all those difficult questions anymore.
Have fun tinkering endlessly.
Bye.

I merely point out that I have heard tons of stories about and from people
building Bedini motors and other battery chargers who experience the
dead battery phenomenon. It is well known and even Bedini and Bearden
mention it.

LMFAO... koen we covered the lesson on the definition of hearsay a long time ago, i guess you didn't get it then. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4362.msg86796#msg86796
one more time then, if you have built a replication then what you say about your experience with it is first hand. if you haven't built a replication anything you say about it is hearsay. ie: if bedini tells you something about one of his experiences with an sg that he built, that IS NOT hearsay. if you repeat what bedini told you to someone else, that IS hearsay. i don't know how it can be explained any clearer than that, nor do i understand why you take so much offense to that fact...
bedini and bearden talked about it occurring under VERY SPECIFIC conditions... ie: very little or no amperage going to the batteries. bearden makes a special point of emphasizing that (that a discrete amount of amperage is required) in EFTV2...

what no pictures of your builds? apparently that must be too difficult?
what was the issue again? your failure to make as good of a jt mod as mk?
or was the issue my issue with your 'theoretical model'? if so, you're gonna cry and run off because someone has disagreed with your 'theoretical model'?   
the difficult question is now in your hands. how do you propose to validate your assumed discrete electron? do you have a solution for singularity avoidance that does not involve subtracting infinity from infinity? if you have such a solution, then i have no problems with your 'model'. until then, well, it pretty much sucks...

[mikem_2au]

hey,

I thought i would start with a mk1 before attempting the mk2, there i sat trying to figure
out how to connect the two pick-up coils in series, i thought back to when
i had both pick-ups wound up but not down then imagined slideing the two
pick-ups around the toroid and noticed that they are both wound around the
toroid in the same direction, the second pick-up is actually wound backwards.
So the end on the second pick-up wich stayed stationary while i wound the other
end up the toroid was actually the END and not the Start as i thought.

So i connected the two pickups in series, the END of the first pick-up and the START
of the second pick-up (the start being the end i wound up and down)

a single pick-up gave me 134v
pick-ups in series gave me 141v

then 1 pick-up to the rectifier..   one end of the second pick-up to the positive
side of the rectifier, the other end used as the new positive and the negative being
the negative side of the rectifier ..  i got 247v
this fills a cap fairly fast to 247v then slowly climb's to 270v

I think i'm going to try the mk2 tomorrow..

hope you all can understand the way i have explained what i have done,

getting a bit late here, better get myself some sleep
mike..

[WilbyInebriated]

hey,

I thought i would start with a mk1 before attempting the mk2, there i sat trying to figure
out how to connect the two pick-up coils in series, i thought back to when
i had both pick-ups wound up but not down then imagined slideing the two
pick-ups around the toroid and noticed that they are both wound around the
toroid in the same direction, the second pick-up is actually wound backwards.
So the end on the second pick-up wich stayed stationary while i wound the other
end up the toroid was actually the END and not the Start as i thought.

So i connected the two pickups in series, the END of the first pick-up and the START
of the second pick-up (the start being the end i wound up and down)

a single pick-up gave me 134v
pick-ups in series gave me 141v

then 1 pick-up to the rectifier..   one end of the second pick-up to the positive
side of the rectifier, the other end used as the new positive and the negative being
the negative side of the rectifier ..  i got 247v
this fills a cap fairly fast to 247v then slowly climb's to 270v

I think i'm going to try the mk2 tomorrow..

hope you all can understand the way i have explained what i have done,

getting a bit late here, better get myself some sleep
mike..

bravo mike! nice results thanks for posting them, perfect timing too i might add