Joule Thief

[jeanna]

@Hi gary,
That's pretty cool.

My hands are verrry full at the moment 18.89 feet of wire eesh...., so I cannot type any more.

Did you ever make a circuit drawing?

very cool. Did jesus see this, I wonder?

thank you,

jeanna

[stprue]

@ Jeanna

Ahhh you are already winding the 3.38''....NICE

[jeanna]

Actually no.
I decided to hold myself in check a little and use my last med 5/$ toroid to copy what Hazens did.
I have found it to be easier to measure one or 2 turns and make the cut wire as close to the actual length as possible. In this case I added 10 inches at each end.  I think I figured 1.375 inches around times 150 turns was 208 inches and 20 more divided by 12 is almost 19 feet.

It is quite a job keeping the wire from getting caught in itself.

Next. I will use the new big one.

I still have 2 more filters. They are better material but smaller diameter than the 5/$1med.

I think that 3.38" will be good. anyway I hope so.
It has a good shape, not too high for the diameter, I think.

Have you even started to make a primary for that one?
I wonder if it will need more wire or primary turns to make it oscillate?

I expect to be using the Hazens1 center tap winding method for the primary.
It is easier to add and subtract turns using his method.

I actually found the dead spots in the 5/$1med today.
It is more like not exactly 180 degrees from the primary.
Instead it is 180 degrees from the end wire that goes into the transistor.
So, there are 2 and if the primary is 12 oclock, then the dead spots are at 5 and 7.
Does that description make sense?

I am making this one just like hazens, so there will be minimal differences.

I took a peek at 50 turns, which is all I did in 2 hours. (it will get faster as I have less loose wire flapping around)

with 220r it drew
27mA at
17KHz and produced
160 volts.
The shape was mostly flat line with occasional spikes.

With 2200r it drew
1.3mA (12.8mA with a BJTL in place) and at
33.3kHz produced
89.9 volts. 
The shape was similar but the spikes were closer together and shorter.

I s'pose that is going to be right with another 100 turns and the return direction. I may look again when I turn back and again at 100 turns, just to watch what happens along the way. It might be interesting.

jeanna

[stprue]

Actually no.
I decided to hold myself in check a little and use my last med 5/$ toroid to copy what Hazens did.
I have found it to be easier to measure one or 2 turns and make the cut wire as close to the actual length as possible. In this case I added 10 inches at each end.  I think I figured 1.375 inches around times 150 turns was 208 inches and 20 more divided by 12 is almost 19 feet.

It is quite a job keeping the wire from getting caught in itself.

Next. I will use the new big one.

I still have 2 more filters. They are better material but smaller diameter than the 5/$1med.

I think that 3.38" will be good. anyway I hope so.
It has a good shape, not too high for the diameter, I think.

Have you even started to make a primary for that one?
I wonder if it will need more wire or primary turns to make it oscillate?

I expect to be using the Hazens1 center tap winding method for the primary.
It is easier to add and subtract turns using his method.

I actually found the dead spots in the 5/$1med today.
It is more like not exactly 180 degrees from the primary.
Instead it is 180 degrees from the end wire that goes into the transistor.
So, there are 2 and if the primary is 12 oclock, then the dead spots are at 5 and 7.
Does that description make sense?

I am making this one just like hazens, so there will be minimal differences.

I took a peek at 50 turns, which is all I did in 2 hours. (it will get faster as I have less loose wire flapping around)

with 220r it drew
27mA at
17KHz and produced
160 volts.
The shape was mostly flat line with occasional spikes.

With 2200r it drew
1.3mA (12.8mA with a BJTL in place) and at
33.3kHz produced
89.9 volts. 
The shape was similar but the spikes were closer together and shorter.

I s'pose that is going to be right with another 100 turns and the return direction. I may look again when I turn back and again at 100 turns, just to watch what happens along the way. It might be interesting.

jeanna

I see, no I have not started the 3.38'' yet.  I think I'm intimidated.  I wouldn't want to mess up with that much wire.  One thing that I will be doing to help me wind it is keeping the wire in the wire coil it came with.  I'm not sure if you noticed but the radioshack wire conviently fits through it but barely.  I will shave off some siding.  This way I wont have to worry about tangling up the wire and it will be way quicker

I am also going to copy Hazen1 new coil but I honetsly didn't know he had a pirticular style to do it.  Also I still don't know how to find dead spots or the right amount of turns.  For me it is trail and error and guest based on what I have seen.  I am still very new to this.

About the amount of wire on primary and JT part.  I deffinetly think it will be more then any of us are used to.

P.S. I finished my new attempt at the MK1 e2 today.  I will test tomorrow and post some results

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...

[captainpecan]

Thank you very much.  Well, to me it is free energy but others on Youtube will not agree on this point.  One guy told me that it takes thousands of amps of electricity to make a magnesium block so it isn't free energy.  I said that that power was already spent, and the block was on a shelf somewhere in a warehouse so to me, once the material costs (mine) are surpassed, it is free energy.  I mean, it takes electricity to make transistors, caps, etc.  At some point, I think it is rediculous to factor all of that in.  It took electricity to make the copper wires in our homes but, we don't get billed for that every month by the power company.

The voice of a skeptic never ceases to amaze me.  So I guess if you happened to find a completely naturally occurring magnesium block that did not take any electricity to make, then it would finally be free energy?  No, that's right, a different excuse would be in order then.  I wish more people would wake up, and see the truth. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed, we still have exactly as much energy now as we did a million years ago.  Oh, and money did not exist then either...  So technically, doesn't that mean that every bit of energy we have ever used, has been FREE?  The only thing we are ever paying for, is for someone to rent us the free energy we did not go out and get for ourselves.  I really don't think it's that complicated to be honest... lol... It's no different than paying for water.  The water has always been free to all of us, but if we would like it to be clean, and ran directly to our faucets, we have to pay for it.