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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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nievesoliveras

@Pirate and @electricme

Congratulations for running a motor from an EB!!

Jesus

Pirate88179

@ Jesus:

Thank you.  Jim did it first with his helicopter tail rotor motor. (I mentioned this and gave him credit in my video)  Unless Al has done this already, I may be the first to run a Bedini from the EB.  Hopefully, more to come.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TheNOP

Quote from: jeanna on June 02, 2009, 07:48:10 PM
Remember last week theNOP pointed out that in ac the cap will empty and fill when the direction changes.
this is only true if the AC is symetric.
if peeks are higher then theirs "conter" peeks, the cap might be able to hold some energy.

and it will keep some energy stored if the AC is on top of DC.
meanning AC ripples of a DC current.

Pirate88179

Quote from Jeanna below:


"Remember last week theNOP pointed out that in ac the cap will empty and fill when the direction changes. So, my question is what is this big cap for if it will be too much for your fuji at 2.6 volts? I am surprised that this almost empty capacitor is too much?Please explain, thanks,jeanna"

As Gadget pointed out, at 2.5 volts on the 2.7 volt cap it is almost full and has lots and lots of amps.  I will probably try to run the Fuji anyway just to see, maybe the components will survive 1.5 times the rated input.  The reason I got this large cap is to allow me to get the amps up so I can run things no one thought possible from the EB.  I will let the current trickle in during the day and use it at night.
One thought for you.  My heating and AC unit takes only 15 amps (to start) and i will have 650 amps to play with for a while so, to me it is theoretically possible to run this unit from the EB even if only for a little while.  That is a big step forward.  I will need to step the volts up of course but, you already know how to do that.  This step will be a while in the future but, it is now within the realm of possibility I believe.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Quote from: TheNOP on June 03, 2009, 12:10:21 AM
this is only true if the AC is symetric.
if peeks are higher then theirs "conter" peeks, the cap might be able to hold some energy.

and it will keep some energy stored if the AC is on top of DC.
meanning AC ripples of a DC current.
Ah that means I ought to check out the thing I noticed tonight. The dc on the EB was 0.00v today and 0.66v a couple of days ago, but both days the scope said the voltage was peak to peak 20mV and the frequency was 2.4MHz. The 2 copper pipes had a voltage difference tonight of 0.023v. This is very close to the voltage above the dc. I will look again this week

So, do I understand this correctly? Bill should be able to collect the dc voltage that is in his area but the ac will be lost except for the peaks that are off center?

According to my scope, the peaks are pretty much centered with this ac element from the earth.- if that is what it is.

thanks,

jeanna