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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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altrez

Quote from: electricme on June 08, 2009, 02:15:54 AM
@all,

Demonstrating how the 4 parallel output on a single JT toroid is affected by a unequal load.
0846 = the toroid itself
0870 = 4 LEDs identical loads
0871 = 1 Watt Luxeon Star LED in circuit, draws energy from bottom led, the 1 watt LED is a lot lot brighter.

Nice work. I am seeing the same thing if you make a load on different sizes on each JT pickup coil. You can adjust the output. I have increased grunt work on one as well. Using rheostats pots and resistors on the pickup coils them self's.

-Altrez

gadgetmall

@Mk1
   I hooked my best torroid with a few primary's and a large secondary to the eb . Nothing . At least for the minute i did that little test for you . I see your point . some may have better results  and also when we figure out how to Frequency tune these suckers to the resonate ac in the ground it may show something.I have a signal generator but no scope . I could find the resonate signal but its not accurate enough to say 2.5 Mhz or 7.5 mhz . that's what we are looking for i think for any effect from a coil and the earth . Of course i can run a transistor from the earth and power the jt  which is cool and its a matter of messing with the frequency's to get the most output i think . Here is my Jt powered by a copper rod and galvanized pipe . that's a 3300 10 volt on the side running the Jt . that Jt is a simple boost circuit using an inductor instead of a toroid . Also is a 3 volt module and runs two leds continuous from that Eb . the other side is using the copper and a piece of aluminum and charging a tiny super cap . my Big eb is charging an ultra cap (not shown) so i have three Ebs running now .

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altrez

Quote from: jeanna on June 07, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
Hi Altrez,
I want to know how this big toroid core works for you. And the way I want to know is to ask you to use a regular joule thief circuit and measure the frequency and volts off each secondary/pickup you have wound.

but first I will  need the transistor, battery voltage, if you are using a cap, one led or none on the basic jt, the resistor value all on the joule thief.

I guess I will want to know how many turns are on the primary also.
You know like 4T,5T,94T that kind of basic information.

So after the jt is going, put the aligator clip on one side of one pickup wire and then the probe on the other. Adjust the scope for best voltage which is usually where the curve is too small to examine it, then zoom in with both voltage and frequency, and place the markers on the same spot of the wave (same spot plus 1) and read the frequency.

I would like to know what that is on the various number of turns. If they are all the same then only do this once.

I guess this is it.  ;) You posted pictures and a lot in the beginning but I never saw these basic pieces of information. And besides the scope was so new and all...

thanks a lot,

jeanna

Ok Lets see if I can get started,

1. I want to know how this big toroid core works for you.
   I seem to have great luck with the coil. I have got over 400volts out put with not much effort at all.

2. Frequency and volts off each secondary/pickup you have wound.
   Ok I will get this done this evening.

3. I will  need the transistor, battery voltage, if you are using a cap, one led or none on the basic jt, the resistor value all on the joule thief.
    The transistor is a TIP31 from radio shack The battery voltage is supplied from a Radio Shack rechargeable 1.2 AA battery. How would you like the voltage under load or off load?
There is a small ceramic cap on the charging battery with a blocking diode. I use a 10k pot in place of the resistor It allows for fine tuning. I have noticed that as the source battery drains you can adjust the Pot to keep the circuit running. And once you find the sweet spot spikes charge the source battery to a point. No LEDS on the main circuit all on pickup coils.

4.I guess I will want to know how many turns are on the primary also.You know like 4T,5T,94T that kind of basic information.

  12/12 on basic JT pickups very from 15 to 148  or so.

I will post the scope info after work :)

Take care!

-Altrez

electricme

@Altrez

Quote from: altrez on June 08, 2009, 07:16:56 AM
Nice work. I am seeing the same thing if you make a load on different sizes on each JT pickup coil. You can adjust the output. I have increased grunt work on one as well. Using rheostats pots and resistors on the pickup coils them self's.

-Altrez
Thats very interresting indeed, BTW sorry about disturbing you beauty sleep, being on the other side of the world is a marvelous excuse lol, and upside down to boot.

Its midnight here, my eyes are rolling around in their sockets ha ha.

Tomorrows a big day for me, gotta bury a NS earth battery and see if it can match the copper rods outputs.

hoo roo
jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

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Quote from: Mk1 on June 08, 2009, 02:47:17 AM
@electricme

Nice work !

Look good !

Not to brag but on my mk8 i got 16 secondary . ;D

Ok i brag a bit , but seriously keep the good work!

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