Joule Thief

[jeanna]

Ok Lets see if I can get started,

1. ... I have got over 400volts out put with not much effort at all.

Yes, that is why I want the details. I have not had the same luck?

2. Frequency and volts off each secondary/pickup you have wound.
   Ok I will get this done this evening.

Thank you I look forward to this information

3.The transistor is a TIP31 from radio shack The battery voltage is supplied from a Radio Shack rechargeable 1.2 AA battery. How would you like the voltage under load or off load?

That is what I wanted. the battery is 1.2 or so.

There is a small ceramic cap on the charging battery with a blocking diode.
... I use a 10k pot in place of the resistor It allows for fine tuning. I have noticed that as the source battery drains ...

Please, for these tests, dismantle that part so I do not have that to add any possible confusion. 
So, what is the resistor without the charging thing going on?
thanks

No LEDS on the main circuit all on pickup coils.

excellent.

4.12/12 on basic JT

Thank you. mine are 3T,10T, I will try 12/12 even though mine seemed to slow down when I added more than these.

pickups vary from 15 to 148  or so.

I will post the scope info after work

OK great!
Thank you


jeanna

[gadgetmall]

 @Pirate / i answered your question about the Eb Jim Is Building  you asked a few post back but jeanna raised a fit(Complained) so i deleted it . Damn Sorry !!
I'm Not hunting a whole board for one stinking explanation to answer a question for someone when i got the answer right here in frontof ME . How was i to know that battery was there in another thread , Its not Stubblefields Invention and i posted it a few posts Back .It a COOL EARTH BATTERY / JT POWER SOURCE Patented By John Hayworth in 1864 . It uses  dissimilar metal disk . Different Variation Include Sulfur Encased to increase Current . More Jt power .   ??and  NEVER MIND . . Im  gone ! My Nerves are SHOT  TODAY AND I DON"T NEED ANY  NEGATIVE  VIBES FROM HERE .Some people moved . i didn't and i'll say it again . you can skip over em if you don't like em . My Jts from from My Earth Battery . Thats how there hooked up .
Good luck Jim , Pirate .


OVER AND OUT !

GADGET

[jeanna]

OK you guys,
It is my turn to complain.

There are 2 earth battery threads in which we exhaustively discussed the elements of making the battery ... what and how of all of it.... and on and on... It is already written down!

So, the information is already there.

I have NO problem adding a reference to a stubblefield or any other kind of earth battery here IF it related to the joule thief.

Not because it is not interesting, but because it has already been discussed and experimentally proven or disproven. But on those other threads.

I have moved my earth battery comments over there. If there is something that belongs here because it is an earth battery running a joule thief, that is great,
but to be RE_POSTING old patents and drawings that we have already discussed on the other thread is a waste of time for the folks who have slow dialup
and it takes away from the continuity of the joule thief information.

So, PLEASE put it there.

Gadget, instead of reposting that thing from bedini, please describe how you have connected the transistor of your joule thief to the eb directly and whatever details follow that. how many lights if you needed extra caps anywhere etc...

thank you all,

jeanna

EDIT
There are 2 main earth battery threads.
The first one to read was started by localjoe. He later changed the name to

Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

There is where you will find the beginning.
Later Bill added a thread to separate out the Stubblefield interest from the probes in the ground and he calls it

Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations 

Some people moved over, but for a while there were posts on both of these threads on both kinds of earth batteries.

I hope this helps.

[jeanna]

@MK1 and anyone who could help with this,

I have this 3 1/2 inch I call the biggo.
It took 3T,10T to oscillate.
(This is the same one Altrez uses I believe and he uses 12T,12T, so, I will try that later, but for now)
I have this thing that happens with the secondary.
Today's set up uses:

2k2ohm resistor
1.2v batt
2N3904Transistor

The first half of the pick up alone gives me
89v @ 15.3KHz

The second half gives me:
80V @15.3KHz

If I put them together in "series (so the one that comes up from the bottom and would continue over the top is attached to the one on the other side that IS going over the top.)
This gives me

74V @ 11KHz

This is less than either half. The curve is nicer, but not that much to be worth the loss.

If I connect them in parallel, they give:

12.25v @ 15.5KHz

So, that isn't it either. That is a crazy wave which has a lot of high frequency but short spikes bunched together in a periodic way.

So, my question is...

How do I fix this?

I could run 2 appliances off the 2 parts IF they were enough voltage themselves, but they are not.

I think I have tuned this toroid.
Maybe I should wait and try Altrez's 12/12 turns first then ask,
but here it is.

thanks for any help.

jeanna

[Cap-Z-ro]

@ Jeanna...re your confusion about your Tesla quote.

" In order to make reliable observations of electric resonance effects it is very desirable, if not necessary, to employ an alter-nator "

What I believe he may have meant by that, as he 'apparently' then seemed focused on spark gaps, is that he was just using the alternator as a measuring device.

Hope that helps.

Regards...