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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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electricme

@all
I As far as BEMF in the scope shots, here's what I'm suggesting.  The sharp rise in the voltage spike followed by a very, very rapid decline produces a quickly collapsing magnetic field, followed by inductive kick back (radiant energy?).  I believe both Bearden and Bedini, in the Energy from the Vacuum videos speak about radiant energy in Bedini's circuits in this way.


I went back to post 8 and saw the above post by Bob Smith, now take a look at my last photo I took, on 2nd last post? I think, I can see what he is referring to, right at the bottom of the pulse is the ringing, it tapers down and ends. hmmm is this radiant energy? I don't know.
This is the photo I zoomed in to.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

rensseak

Quote from: electricme on January 03, 2009, 09:46:56 PM

@Rensteak,
Welcome to the forum.
So you built a JT with a ferite rod out of a radio, now thats excellent.
How did you wind the bifilar coil, how many turns, could you post a photo please
could you draw up the circuit and post it.

Well done Norbert

I have to sestart my PC its locked up hope this gets to forum ok.
jim

hi jim,

i just wound it like the toroid one with 15 turns, but that was only random. When i pull out the coil from the rod the light turns off but lowering the resistens till 0 Ohm (instead a resistor im useing a 5k potentiometer) turns it on again but the curios is that the cabels are much sensetiver by touching. The light is then not as bright as with the rod. Also it seems to me that the color of the light change a little. But there is something odd. there is a fluctuation in voltage about 0.1 to 0.15 V and sometimes a flicker in the light. When it reach 1.235 V (across the battery) the light sudden dims for short then it lights up again and the voltage drops to about 1.100. From there it takes some min. till it reaches again the 1.235 V. That is my observation right now but dont ask me what is going on there. I have only a DMM. i just wound it like the toroid one with 15 turns, but that was only random. When i pull out the coil from the rod the light turns off but lowering the resistens till 0 Ohm (instead a resistor im useing a 5k potentiometer) turns it on again but the curios is that the cabels are much sensetiver by touching. The light is then not as bright as with the rod. Also it seems to me that the color of the light change a little. But there is something odd. there is a fluktuation in voltage about 0.1 to 0.15 V and sometimes a flicker in the light. When it reach 1.235 V (across the battery) the light sudden dims for short then it lights up again and the voltage drops to about 1.100. From there it takes some min. till it reaches again the 1.235 V. That is my observation right now but dont ask me what is going on there. It looks like the voltage of the battery is climbing up. I will let it so now to see what will happen after any hours.

Norbert

electricme

@ Norbert

Well Well Well, what have we here, take a look every one, here is the 1st time this forum has seen a working example of an "airless" jule thief bifilar wound coil. I am impressed, and the photo is good also. :D

IST mentioned in a couple of his posts that this could be possible, the last pic shows many white LEDs working.

Norbert, this is impressive, congradulations.

You mentioned you have replaced the resistor with a adjustable resistor, again well done, I had thought of this myself but didnt have one so didnt worry about it, you beat me to it. Having a variable resistor here will give you a bit of "control" over what the JT can do, I suppose it could be see as a fine tuning of the JT.

OK, lets get down to the reason you posted.

your voltage goes up and down when you alter settings,.
This is to be expected, as you change something ever so slightly, it will change something else, if the light flickers quickly, this may mean a crook connection. First clean your contacts on the breadboard, then the wires that poke in the small holes, see if that fixes the problems.

The JT is running on the energy inside the rod (magnetic field), when you pull the rod out it is seeking the energy from somewhere, so I think it begins to feed off it's own energy it creates when the rod was inside the coils. So it seems to me the magnetic field produced by the bifilar coils can be utilised without the rod being there, as the field is in existance, energy can be drawn from it as long as it exists, hmmm 
Has anyone else got some advice for Norbert?

This topic constantly amazes me, something new every day.
Now I wonder, could a bifilar winding be put on a toilet roll? hmmm

jim


People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

innovation_station

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on January 04, 2009, 02:33:34 AM
more vacuous allusions...

parts list... circuit diagram... prove it  ;D

IT IS NOT THERE.

ist i hardly believe you have 'solved it all'.
you didn't even believe that high voltage could light up a fluoro tube and pretty much called me a fake when i showed something SO SIMPLE, and yet you want us to believe you actually 'solved for conversion' and found OU? this is absolutely delusional.

i just spent the last hour going through as many of your posts as i could. i made it through 50 pages and didn't find ONE circuit diagram. NOT ONE. now maybe there is one, maybe i missed it, but i doubt it.
point blank question: have you ever posted a circuit diagram of any of your claims?

don't bother to respond with more of your B.S. put up a circuit digram or shut up.

figure it out for YOURSELF ...

PARDEN ME DID YOU HAND ME  MY ANSWERS  ON A GOLD PLATTER ....

NO YOU DID NOT

LOL

USE YOUR BRAIN ALREADY   ::)


I HAVE GIVEN  more than ANYONE

IST

yes bro your correct! ;)

but ballance it with a low inductance choke.... ;D  btw its an anlum box.... used to sheild my ss parts...

btw will   think what you want ....  i know real well what i SPEEK OF  ;D

where is your proof ...

i have built litterly 50 curcuits or more  ;D  in ALL my building you must think i did not learn anything ......lmao...

you guys cant figure out the damm synced switching so how in the hell are you gonna understand my hovver board controller witch does not use switching ....

hence my avitar

this is the SIMPLE SHIT   then it goes neo ...  ;D  as i said over a year ago i have gone 10 000 miles beond my neozap  wich is miles ahead of this CRAP!!

BTW when i do decide to prove it .....  YOU CAN BUY 1 OFF THE SHELF  ;)

riddle me this ....why did i use a dpdt relay...  ;)  pnp npn ring a bell ... ;D

the controller i have made my own can handle over 2megawatts......  CONSTANT .. :o :o :o

TELL ME WHY I DONT GIVE IT AWAY.....
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

innovation_station

here is 1 more .... 

what is the result ..... if you insted of pull electrical engery off of this unit i have showen  ;D  and compound the magnetic engery  ;D


what!!   :D

and you all thought ufo's wernt real ......  LOL.... ;D


ist... 

what is electricty....? ;)   or as my daughter Ali Blyss  says   "TRISSITY"  ;)

for the record public i say this for the first time

i was electruciated  at 6 months old ... a baby i was perhaps i died ... and came back  ;)   who knows .....   but the remarkable thing is it WAS GOOD FRIDAY!!

i tell no lie!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!