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Overunity Machines Forum



Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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Pirate88179

Gary:

That sounds interesting.  If you use supercaps though, I don't think you need the buffering.  I can run a Bedini motor off of nothing but a single supercap.  It will run for a very long time.  Now, you are working on a 12 volt system and I don't know of any supercaps made for that voltage.  Mine are all either 2.3 or 2.7 volts.  Perhaps you could use several in series to get 12 volts?  I don't really know.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

I have been thinking about this problem, because sooner or later we may all get into this spot, or close to it.

What I am wondering is if your transistor is on (off) at the wrong time?

It may be that rigging the circuit up so that it self recharges, throws off  the timing of the transistor and when it is usually safe, suddenly, it is not.

It may be the same reason jesus' expensive components got fried too.
I have plenty of high spikes, but it is impossible for them to touch the transistor, and you and jesus and bedini etc, are all introducing the spikes to the transistor  area.
Bedini uses a neon across the emitter/collector (I think) so that it will flash there and not fry the transistor. I'll bet he did-in a lot of transistors to learn that trick.

Just some thoughts.

jeanna

Artic_Knight

bedini motors and such from what i have seen in and of themselfs are flawed all these systems are flawed. but they all seem to center around magnetism and the mystery of that magnetism combined with the lure of free energy from magnets seemingly limitless power draws us in to believe that through magnetism there is free energy.

what i have shown to myself thus far is that magnetism and electricity are not the same, they are brothers but able to go their seperate ways, if you take a coil for instance and create a magnetic field the electricity creating that magnetic field continues to pass through slowed down but not stopped. its still there to do work! but instead bedini and others seem to let it pass wastefully and focus on the magnetic current left behind like it has amassed a greater energy which it hasnt. the potential is there, magnetism comes from a infinite source which the electricity makes happen.

what will one day improve efficiencies and make possible free energy will be if we can find a way to recycle electricity. use it more than once. imagine if a electric current could be harnessed to create multiple magnetic fields over and over? would we find unity? over unity? it would take electrical recycling to do so.

there are of course other possibilities. if you have followed the HHO then you by now must have realized that the burning of HHO in a engine is producing more energy than the cost to split it! this is made obvious by some self runners shown on youtube and the usual sources. this would lead one to believe that perhaps the electric current used correctly could also enhance a battery, perhaps bedini has found something that makes charging more efficient but has he found even unity? the voltage is there, but what of the amperage?
im sure in time we may also find a battery equivalent of the HHO cell.

thanks

Artic_Knight

Quote from: jeanna on October 14, 2009, 11:15:50 PM
I have been thinking about this problem, because sooner or later we may all get into this spot, or close to it.

What I am wondering is if your transistor is on (off) at the wrong time?

It may be that rigging the circuit up so that it self recharges, throws off  the timing of the transistor and when it is usually safe, suddenly, it is not.

It may be the same reason jesus' expensive components got fried too.
I have plenty of high spikes, but it is impossible for them to touch the transistor, and you and jesus and bedini etc, are all introducing the spikes to the transistor  area.
Bedini uses a neon across the emitter/collector (I think) so that it will flash there and not fry the transistor. I'll bet he did-in a lot of transistors to learn that trick.

Just some thoughts.

jeanna

like maybe the circuit has a hard wired resonant frequency but needs a flexible one? a circuit designed to change its frequency as the environment (circuit) changes? one that would need the resistance of the battery to set the resonance?

the more you work some clays the softer they become thus requiring a different amount of work. or theres no amperage to the voltage and your losing potiential work. more answers bring more questions.

Mk1

@ak and others

I have posted a document made on this discovery a while back now we are starting to get confirmation.

This is a real interesting read.

http://www.disclose.tv/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.sciencedaily.com%2F~r%2Fsciencedaily%2F~3%2F79GuHBdhj4c%2F091015085916.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8307804.stm