Joule Thief

[gadgetmall]

thank you gadget!

this is proof .!   i am happy your the first to post the proof !

it makes me smile 

now the lippy ones and go for a hike to the bench and confirm the proof!




william

i bet it shuts up a few ... 

Well i am doing two more experiments while the first one runs all day .
The second Experiment used a fully charged everready 2500 mah battery to 1.425 volts . taking a second 650 f 2.7 v cap i jumped the aa battery to a discharged Bcap . the wires got hot and the cap slowly rode to .500 and the battery was discharged in 10 minutes to dead . It appears the battery like a battery charger sees the cap as a Short so you cannot recharge an Ultra cap with one aa battery although if you have a 50 amp battery charger you can recharge this cap in one minuit but your battery charger must be a heavy duty one . the little 10 amp one pops off in 30 seconds and the cap is no where near half full . BUT a JT can RECHARGE THEM:) However i have an ongoing light cube experiment #3 that uses One of My Cis solar panels (on sale Now ) and one  will Charge the Bcap up in a days worth of sun to 2.6 - 2-7 volts . be sure not to over charge the cap above 2.7 . Use a Zener Diode or regulator to make sure . These caps are very dangerous and haS a Screw on one side . Do not unscrew this . this is where they put a few milligrams of Poison electrolyte in i was told and it will kill you if breaths and after that small amount of electrolyte is gone so is your cap . it is sealed Permanently if you don't tamper . I understand this screw is also a sort of pressure valve and will blow out IF you over charge these caps so be careful .
gadget

edit *** Bcap is now 1.697 and aa source for jt is 1.290 . so from 10 pm last (1.295)night to 10:30 am 1.290)the current drain from an 11 turn jt dropped 5 100ths of a volt (or is it 5 1000ths)while providing and over the unity charge to a 650f 2.7 v cap .

[innovation_station]

careful on your new feet we do not want you to fall!

 
    W&M
IST & JT

THE FUTURE IS IN THE AIR .. I FEEL IT EVERYWHERE!

@ gary! 

that is a really nice unit you are building !   i cant wate to make her sing! 

NO SUGAR TONIGHT .   GUESS WHO ?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPqT031SWT4

ITS THE NEW SPLENDID LADY COME TO CALL!
ITS THE NEW MOTHER NATURE TAKEING OVER ! 
SHE'S GETTING US ALL!

NOW IM FALLEN FROM HER SKYS.........

[Pirate88179]

Gadget:

This confirms what I was seeing with the big cap and my Fuji JT and my EER. (Earth Battery)  I think the 650F caps are a better way to capture all of the energy of the back emf spikes that we have seen on our scopes.  A battery may hold on to some of them, but I have believed from my first experiment with them and JT's that the big caps are a more efficient way of gathering all of this energy...or most of it.

As we all know, my EER puts out in the mA's range, around 19 at about 1.9-2 volts.  Well, I can charge that large cap over night easily.  So, now I have 2.7 volts and a lot of available power.  One thing I don't get is why I didn't need a diode to keep the energy in the cap from flowing back to the EER once it was higher than the EER's output?  Maybe with a diode of some kind, the big cap would charge faster?

In all of my experiments with supercaps I have seen that they act like a battery when releasing energy over time, but this charging effect is one major difference and, for our purposes with JT circuits, I think that difference really helps us.

If it is OU or not, I don't know but, I can say for sure that it is at least a very efficient way to capture energy (the spikes) from JT circuits.

Bill

PS  That photo (Of the Fuji Circuit) on your website that you mentioned earlier, that was taken by me and posted here.  (You can see my famous Blue and white table cloth) This is open source here and, even though you do not need it in my opinion, you have my permission to use it on your site.  Someone else marked it up after I posted it but, like you said, we share here, no strings attached. Just wanted to mention that.

[gadgetmall]

@Bill
      Thanks For the permission . I have removed all the Pictures untie i review them and cut Out Freezers two . The thing is i don't need to but he called me a thief for "STEALING " his pictures and Displaying Them . He has a problem and Don't understand openSource  at all . Who cares .

      Well It's obvious that with the ultra capacitor capturing Energy from a Jt verse charging a battery is quite different . The Ucap Is storing amps that is proportional to the volts for a given farad rating . Its not COLD ELECTRICITY" It's infact enuff to hurt you and burn electrical components and wires UP!! I need someone else to test one on a goldmine 5/1 toroid using 11 turns Bi . Not to mention all the excess energy produced from the secondary . thats and extra over the unity not accounted for running 1 watt of leds . BTW as the Bcap charged the secondary volts are increasing . the halfbright leds are now almost full bright and you cant stare at them anymore . On could argue that this is overunity as described . its a conversion of energy  going on 4 sure ! heck i can now swap out the cap to run the JT and Charge the rechargeable battery up in a few minuets to where the battery was last night . it only needs 5 1000ths of a volt to get back . and you know as well as i do that that ultracap will run that Jt for a week now at a 2 volt charge !!. Amazing . I never thought of it that way .
Next test will be tomorrow when i run the same circuit on two ultra caps and then swap em a few times and check then . but as i see it now its higher that the battery  and 10,000 X the current of the battery .
Gadget

[resonanceman]

guruji

I finished  the other drawing

I am putting them both here so that it is easy to see that  one side of each coil  is used for feedback  the other for flyback.

It first  when   connecting  the feedback lines  I would  measure the voltage   I no longer do that .
We are  dealing with  spikes here ....... a  spike  just a microsecond  before or after  another spike is  a whole new event ...... I  have seen the  time that I had  one coil measure over 100 V  and  I added  another coil for feedback ......it measured just over 1 V .......my LED array  got  slightly brighter .

The  whole point of these drawings is to show that  all  the  flyback  connections  are  in series between  the  secondary and the load .
All  the feedback connections  are  connected to  the Jesus charger 

I  usually  try connecting the  secondary of the  JT coil for flyback ......if the secondary is to large ....it acts as a choke and  the output drops to near zero. 
When this happens it is probably a good time to try connecting the primary of that JT for flyback ......and the  secondary for feedback .




Bill
Thanks for resizing for me

Gadget
As you know ......this is open source .
It is nice to give credit if you want to use stuff I have posted here ......but  it is not required.
A big part of  why I am here is because  of a great injustice
I would like to be  a small part of fixing that injustice .
Tesla  tried  to  give us  electricity that could not be metered .
He was blacklisted  for  his efforts .
This was a serious  injustice ......but it is not the injustice  I spoke of.
After  Tesla was blacklisted   it  started being ACTIVELY taught  that  over unity of any kind is impossible .
Over Unity  power is easy ............but it is not impossible .
If you  can  use  some of my ideas to  show others  that  OU is possible I will feel honored

It is my opinion  that  if we  do  not  find  a practical OU energy source soon ........the  human  civilization  will not  last to much longer .....at least not as we know it now .

The oil companys say we  have enough oil for 50 more years ....... They do not speak of  the way prices will go up  as that oil is consumed .
I would say  if we  do have 50 years of oil .......we have  less than 5 years  before we have all out war for  the remaining  reserves  .   
Those that worship only money and power will not wait until the oil runs out to take action ....... at that point  there is no power to take .


gary

Edit

few more thoughts
If you plan to try this  use a JT with high voltage and  good power.
A JT that  does a good job of lighting a florescent tube or a CFL would  be a good start .
My best results were with  JTs made  with either  the whole flyback transformer coil  .....or wound on the core of  a flyback  transformer coil.
As  more coils are connected  the voltage does tend to drop ......but  the current seems to rise giving more  light from my array with less volts .

I do not have  information  about  the input current or voltage.
I am now running  all my projects with 12 V .......however  I  used the exact same  setup  using a single AA  battery