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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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innovation_station

my finished unit i will compleat public will produce many amp at 12vdc to drive a intergrated invertor of 1.2kw ..

it will be portable and second to none ..  i told you all this is not cheep!

but when you look at durability ..  agin bang for the buck ... unmatched!

when looking at the life of the caps and what they are capable of ..

peace!

w
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

gadgetmall

Quote from: innovation_station on November 20, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
my finished unit i will compleat public will produce many amp at 12vdc to drive a intergrated invertor of 1.2kw ..

it will be portable and second to none ..  i told you all this is not cheep!

but when you look at durability ..  agin bang for the buck ... unmatched!

when looking at the life of the caps and what they are capable of ..

peace!

w
Yes you have to look at it that way . It cost MONEY to invent . if you don't get the parts then you don't build it and waste your money on paying utility bills and energy wasting appliances anyway so better to pay a little now than a lot later . and your going to pay anyways if you live in a house :) or trailer  or rv or whatever . why pay 300 dollars a month for electricity when My system will run from practly nothing . I don't like 12 volts cause its not free . 1 to 2 volts at a few milliamsps is free from  the dirt :) but if you keep your 12 volts charged to output energy then its worth it in my opinion ..

WEll IST have you seen enuff to please the Mouthy peoples . ?
i aint done yet ...waiting for the third swap after isee this one go ou the second time around . its looking real good . Thanks for asking me to do this experiment ., Just in time for winter . ! SSJT !!


Gadget

@jeanna . VEry nice . I dont know how i missed  . I want one . Its better than My fugi light . bigger but better. Do you know what page its on ? ............Just kidding . these is too many pages to keep track of now . Good God  :o
I am all for helping . I am going to tear down this standard jt and wind one that will cook . I bet you already know the proper winding for such a device as the goldmine toroid 5/$1 . Ist gave me a bunch to work on so we need to Graduate to the next level . AMPS from BIG BATTERY CAPS  .

I hope you guys get the last ones . They got sold quicker than i wanted them too .someone bought over 10,000 of them  and that leaves me with only 35 to sell at the discounted price . I make 2 bucks on one / paypal gets theirs and i ship priority if available in your country .
who ever it was must either be  selling them or using them for a massive project . I have not seen anyone here say anything about those so i guess they are not here on this forum .

I am tired . I will check in tomorrow and give the tally for the charge Bcap .

O BTW i got a  Dr Stiffler sec in the mailbox today . it fits in a tiny 1/1/2 inch golf ball cube . I havent even had time to play with it and probably wont this week . for its Thanksgiving Weekend . I am too excited to make fire from an aa battery .

Lots of Success to all

Gadget
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jeanna

Quote from: gadgetmall on November 20, 2009, 07:01:05 PM
...
Yes by all means research the little caps . I ran Experiment 3 again and same results with the 4.7 farad supercaps . In my standard Jt they don't work at all for showing anysign of OU but i do have a little cube light that runs off one for over 24 hours  and charged by the sun for a few minutes or by a lamp for a few minutes and that supercap maxes out . I think this can be made better with lots more turns on the primary . As far as the secondary these is no current to charge the Bcap or from previous test . I am sure we can figure thisout .. I tried already with the setup before i started experiment 1 . it don't budge  an ultracap  with diodes in series . without them the coil smokes . So for now i will work on the the worlds most efficient aa battery heater /light . I hope others see their way to replicate and make it stronger .
Gadget

I am addressing this to gadget but it is for all, of course.

Many months ago, I had a very strong 'download' type thought. (that is the kind that comes in fully packaged and instantly) At that time, I got it that there are never any amps that are needed in the ac circuit.

yes.

none.

OK so why do we think this and why do we always use amps?
I set myself -silently- to discover this.

In the course of many months of experiments, I have realized that the amps are only drawn into play when no other part of the system can be drawn.
In our normal ac from the wall we are forced to use 60hz and 110v or 50hz and 240v
. Therefore the only element that can be drawn is the amps.
For example, I have been watching as lights get brighter but less power is used.

I have also watched as I have added inductors IN SERIES to a pulsed wire that while the voltage may be lighting the lights the frequency will dip.
Then, (I am still experimenting)  if I add more series coils the voltage spikes can go up again and the lights can use more of something.
It seems that it will continue as long as the frequency of spikes is high enough that it can be reduced.

Frequency is not a thing, of course, it is a rate of spikes passing over a marker in a second, which is rather like amps because an amp is a rate of joules (electrons??)  passing a marker in a second.
In one of our jt circuits that have high frequency, there is a lot of room for manipulation of the volts and frequency of spikes.

OK so now I have shared it as I see it now.
There will surely be more, and now, I want to add a series inductor to a place that added more light to a ........... ;)

That wire site has a table that shows that the 36 gauge wire uses .1.5A to become 2000 degrees F
And it says if it is coiled you can expect it to be about half.

So, a 2.5Ah AA rechargeable should be good for a couple of hours without damaging the battery.

I also think there will be a pulse rate that will heat the wire and turn off just long enough for the wire to just begin to cool and then pulse and heat it up again.

Yeay!

jeanna

innovation_station

i never had to see a thing ... they did ...

i hope you like your wings ...

peace!

william  :)

you know in the past i have played with hot water ... and i think it holds heat really well 

hot water on demand anyone ... hot water heaters .. powered by an aa ..

lol

i think its almost ALICE in WONDERLAND  in this thred ...



To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

gadgetmall

Quote from: jeanna on November 20, 2009, 07:42:01 PM
I am addressing this to gadget but it is for all, of course.

Many months ago, I had a very strong 'download' type thought. (that is the kind that comes in fully packaged and instantly) At that time, I got it that there are never any amps that are needed in the ac circuit.

yes.

none.

OK so why do we think this and why do we always use amps?
I set myself -silently- to discover this.

In the course of many months of experiments, I have realized that the amps are only drawn into play when no other part of the system can be drawn.
In our normal ac from the wall we are forced to use 60hz and 110v or 50hz and 240v
. Therefore the only element that can be drawn is the amps.
For example, I have been watching as lights get brighter but less power is used.

I have also watched as I have added inductors IN SERIES to a pulsed wire that while the voltage may be lighting the lights the frequency will dip.
Then, (I am still experimenting)  if I add more series coils the voltage spikes can go up again and the lights can use more of something.
It seems that it will continue as long as the frequency of spikes is high enough that it can be reduced.

Frequency is not a thing, of course, it is a rate of spikes passing over a marker in a second, which is rather like amps because an amp is a rate of joules (electrons??)  passing a marker in a second.
In one of our jt circuits that have high frequency, there is a lot of room for manipulation of the volts and frequency of spikes.

OK so now I have shared it as I see it now.
There will surely be more, and now, I want to add a series inductor to a place that added more light to a ........... ;)

That wire site has a table that shows that the 36 gauge wire uses .1.5A to become 2000 degrees F
And it says if it is coiled you can expect it to be about half.

So, a 2.5Ah AA rechargeable should be good for a couple of hours without damaging the battery.

I also think there will be a pulse rate that will heat the wire and turn off just long enough for the wire to just begin to cool and then pulse and heat it up again.

Yeay!

jeanna
Yeay is right i didn't look at the speks for a 100 foot roll of it . If a 1.5 ah 1.5 volt AA battery will heat up to 2000f then the Ultracap at 2.7 volts at 3500 amps can make it Whirl for long time .Cool . Well i measured the current from the CE junction and it was over 6 milliamps with it drawing 11 -13 ma so i assumed this is where the charge was coming from as i could not charge them from the secondary ??? you will defiantly figure this out . We are as close as we have ever been now that something can store AMPS for long term use . A battery won't work in this circuit charging . it charged but eventually it loses its capacity . These don't .
ok Me so tired . Fingers falling numb ..

Gadget


update last for 2nite     Experiment 2 part 2 1.178 run  1. 281 CHarge  . i think its going to make it by morning to 2.000 . If it does Does this Prove Overy unity . Yes i think so . Comments ?
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