Joule Thief

[gadgetmall]

@IST
Unfortunately there is  patents on the Joule thief technology currently used by the government  They have a piezo generator that uses the slightest movement to produce 3.5 volts and higher for the military soldier to power stuff take a look !! http://www.rlpenergy.com/ they are building these things on clothes and stuff .. Also i would love to claim the overunity prize but i can't because of Patents .. hers a link you can BUY there Joule thief copywrited module http://www.rlpenergy.com/energy_harv/index.html they Beat us to it  Joule-Thiefâ,,¢ Click on the Technology Link . Interesting grafts and schematics .
Al

[innovation_station]

not to shoot you down bro.... but as i have said there many ways lol .. 

but what do i know

ist!

this is the device of 1000 styles 

so because a switch is pattended  i cant use one ...  oooooo  darn ...  i better invent another they dont have


sparks got 5 mins.... lol    i got this high speed rotary style plasma sw idea im flipping round in the back ground of my  mind ... 

[Pirate88179]

@ Gadgetmall:

Great links, thanks!  They are using  pizo ceramic materials here which is a different twist than what most of us are doing. Hey, they have patented the Joule Thief but not my Joule Pirate, ha ha.  The pizo materials inclusion is what makes it different enough for the patent as the basic joule thief technology has been around far too long for anyone to patent now. They have to show a major improvement on an existing technology which apparently they did.  Don't get me started on patents, they are not worth anything to folks like us.  I have been down that road 20 years ago and it is not what most folks think it is.  Open source is much better for many reasons, including financial, if that is what someone wants.

My Joule Pirate will be different enough to patent but I will not ever even think of doing so.  And, once posted on here, no one else can either because you have to prove you are the inventor of any device and if it is was published first by someone else, then, no patent.  So, in other words, this was good info to have but it does not deter me in the least.  Great post.

@ Jim:

Wow, you are tracking your mice with cctv cams now?  You should get an IR lens and then you can see them at night when they are most active.  You can also wire up a motion detector to the cams so they only turn on when the mice are active.  Then, you can get object recognition software to track each individual mouse and hook that up to a gas laser/trigger mechanism mounted on a 3 axis pan and tilt head  and......poof!  A high tech seek and destroy mouse trap!!!!
I still say it is easier to wire the Fuji circuit to the mouse trap  or to an aluminum pan set on the floor with some cheese on it.....mouse steps on the pan.....Zap!!!!  Best yet, get a cat.  They are great company and perfect hunters. Great info on the scooters and the stepping motors.  I didn't know any of that.  Thank you.


@MK 1:

That earth battery diagram you posted was not Stubblefield's.  There are several patents that are similar, but different.  Stubblefield's was just as Jim described without the use of the sulfur cake which would degrade over time.  As Jim mentioned, there are 2 earth battery topic on OU here that explore just about all of the patents and devices in some detail.  A lot of experiments are posted there as well.  Not to sidetrack our topic here but, in case anyone is not aware, Nathan Stubblefield (Murry, Kentucky) invented and operated the world's first cell phone technology in the late 1800's.  he installed a phone system in Murry, KY for the town, lit his farm and house, heated his house, powered the town's phone system (they were not on the grid) all with his earth batteries.  It make fascinating reading.  There is a monument to him in Murry, KY naming him "The father of radio" as he beat Marconi by many years.  When his methods are examined more closely, I agree with most who deemed his device a cell phone as opposed to radio.  We had some confusion on our topics about the 2 types of coils he used.  One was for the power (earth battery) and the other was the transceiver coil for the phone.  Looking closely at all of the pictures we could find, I am not sure if I can tell which is which.  Basically, he would take a few earth batteries and stick them in the ground.  Then he would stick his telephone transceiver into the ground as well.  Then, he would go some miles away (up to 5 miles was reported) and do the same thing.  He then could speak to the folks at the first cell or station and they could speak and hear him as well.  he was sending the waves through the earth (ground) as well as powering the devices with the earth. (earth batteries)  As I said, fascinating history.

The earth batteries I am going to use with the JT are the electrode type, like Gadgetmall's. Carbon rods and magnesium blocks.


@ Jeanna:

You are right...the "print" trick seems to be disabled.  I had not noticed that.  It was a good feature for scanning back through a lot of pages.  Great work on your wire diameter testing.  I did some more supercap tests last night and I will make a video if I get my work done today fast enough. (I keep putting off the paperwork by being on here)  I am glad you have those leds to test with.  I still get a thrill when I wire up something on the breadboard, and it actually works... ha ha.  Of course, I have only been using one now for a few weeks.  I made a circuit last night and...it did not work the first time.  Well, I got up to get a beer to think about what might be wrong and my cat jumped up onto the table and, of course, my breadboard.  Would you believe it all lit up then?  Evidently, the leads on the supercaps are very thin and I have them stuck right into the breadboard and they must have been loose.  She fixed it.  It just goes to show me that I never know where I am going to get help from next.

@ All:

More later.

Bill

[gadgetmall]

@ALL
Hi . No i did not Mean to say anything to discourage . I just know that you cant use a patented circuit . not the switch or led  but the concept . Of coarse yall know that . There are things the Government has that you think are science fiction . I personally have  a relative who retired from NASA who is under a secrecy act of the US government and he told me some things that are here now that will never be disclosed to the general public. All of wildest dreams are already a reality . Its going to be HARD to put some of them Out that we make . That is why i am just happy with the free energy i make and don't expect to market any of it because it will either bring you unwelcome Visitors  to your House or possible   
Your Bones picked by buzzards in the Desert   

[Pirate88179]

@ALL
Hi . No i did not Mean to say anything to discourage . I just know that you cant use a patented circuit . not the switch or led  but the concept . Of coarse yall know that . There are things the Government has that you think are science fiction . I personally have  a relative who retired from NASA who is under a secrecy act of the US government and he told me some things that are here now that will never be disclosed to the general public. All of wildest dreams are already a reality . Its going to be HARD to put some of them Out that we make . That is why i am just happy with the free energy i make and don't expect to market any of it because it will either bring you unwelcome Visitors  to your House or possible   
Your Bones picked by buzzards in the Desert   :)

You can use a patented circuit or any patented device, as long as you are not going to sell it. (That's probably what you meant anyway)  Like most here, I want to make stuff I can use, and share it with others so they can use.  I replied to your other post, but you posted the above before my post posted.  You may want to look at it. (Or not)  I agree that there are many things not seeing the light of day for security reasons, or because they don't think we, the people, can handle it.  (Of course, they might be right about that last part.)

"Your Bones picked by buzzards in the Desert"  In Jim's case, his bones would be picked by mice.  I sure hope he wins the war down there.

Bill