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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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gadgetmall

#3060
February 18, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: slayer007 on February 17, 2009, 09:41:47 PM
The backwards one will work off the emitter of the 2n2222 it will allso work off the base.
Going off the emitter is 6v going off the base is 9v.
This is off a 1.5v AA.

For the positive there both going back to negative source.

Then you can pick up the positive back emf off the collector of the 2n3055

You know i thought about this and i am pretty sure the guy is wrong . ..at least   in his battery / transformer example . you see a transformer works normally with induction so when he connects the battery the normal job of the transformer is done ,this is not BEMF or BACK ELECTRO MOTIVE FORCE . ITS induction . BUT when he releases the battery ONE BEMF pulse that is normally wasted is release and its only one polarity.the oppisite of the original induced pulse . It is much higher than the first induced voltage .That is why Bedini uses a Diode and he is the one who patented the Idea Of capturing the idea of BEMF ( Its really TIME) with a Diode .He used the term BEMF to get the Patent . there is much more to that pulse than just higher voltage . this would only apply to his primary /secondary demo with the two leds . Now if you wound a trifilar coil with two secondaries  with diodes oppisite and pulsed the coil with ac you would get two seperate  polarities but not with pulsed DC . Have you noticed that with the Jt the led will only light one way ? )
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innovation_station

#3061
February 18, 2009, 08:42:50 PM
Quote from: gadgetmall on February 18, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
You know i thought about this and i am pretty sure the guy is wrong . ..at least   in his battery / transformer example . you see a transformer works normally with induction so when he connects the battery the normal job of the transformer is done ,this is not BEMF or BACK ELECTRO MOTIVE FORCE . ITS induction . BUT when he releases the battery ONE BEMF pulse that is normally wasted is release and its only one polarity.the oppisite of the original induced pulse . It is much higher than the first induced voltage .That is why Bedini uses a Diode and he is the one who patented the Idea Of capturing the idea of BEMF ( Its really TIME) with a Diode .He used the term BEMF to get the Patent . there is much more to that pulse than just higher voltage . this would only apply to his primary /secondary demo with the two leds . Now if you wound a trifilar coil with two secondaries  with diodes oppisite and pulsed the coil with ac you would get two seperate  polarities but not with pulsed DC . Have you noticed that with the Jt the led will only light one way ?  


lol

well i did not mention with my new green guy it lites both ways on the secondary  feedback coil ....  and is much brighter the other way ....


but

when i do this all else stops .....  no neon no led on first feedback coil   no jt lite ...  however the coil still runns .... 

how do i know ...  ;D  lol   

answer .... cuz the led is lit ...  lol  and if i remove it instantally there all lit up agin


ah just thought i would mention it ...

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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gadgetmall

#3062
February 18, 2009, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: innovation_station on February 18, 2009, 08:42:50 PM

lol

well i did not mention with my new green guy it lites both ways on the secondary  feedback coil ....  and is much brighter the other way ....


but

when i do this all else stops .....  no neon no led on first feedback coil   no jt lite ...  however the coil still runns .... 

how do i know ...  ;D  lol   

answer .... cuz the led is lit ...  lol  and if i remove it instantally there all lit up agin


ah just thought i would mention it ...

ist!
Hey Ist . Well with the Way Mk1 Wound his secondary  along with oppisit primary's it is possible to catch the forward normal pulse and the higher BEMF pulse . You see now  :) Again It dosnt apply to a not so normal Jt . Only normal transformer type . not three coils and you see that guy is wrong .when you turn your led and it lights dim you are intercepting the primary induction and thats why everything goes out .but you turn it and the bemf takes over and wala !
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gadgetmall

#3063
February 18, 2009, 09:16:10 PM
@ Jeanna
Where are you ? You are the only girl i know besides My little one . We Miss you .
Albert
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Pirate88179

#3064
February 18, 2009, 09:24:18 PM
@ Al:

Jeanna is still on her camping trip. She will have a lot of reading to do when she gets back......

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen
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