Joule Thief

[jadaro2600]

@jeanna, I'll be sure to include more information about what I'm posting - unfortunately, I'm using parts which are salvaged from defunct devices, so Identifying them can sometimes be a pain.

@rensseak,   Yea, that's what I was talking about with the linear transformer.   This is how I test some setups.

@xee2,  The diode is helping protect from backfires - it's routing to the capacitor ...in which case:

@all, My initial concern is that we have huge spikes in flux, and these translate to voltages beyond the capabilities of most transistors' V_ceo rating.  Then, allow me to ask again,

Since the juice is flowing through the led's or what have you, wouldn't it be safe to say that there's not to much danger to the transistor when we run a diode off the collector and use this path for the boosted voltage? ...wouldn't the extra components just sink the current and voltage? ...this is not in reference to setups with pickup coils.

[TheNOP]

Over on the 'joule thief' thread they make reference to the coil making an audible sound which they tuned into silence.

I'm wondering if the frequency of that sound could be tuned to accomplish what Ed did by looping the secondary coil around an heavy object ?

are you saying Ed moved the coral blocs by electrical or sound means ?

if yes, know that i am able to lift a 10 tonnes slab as many feet in the air as you want.
alone, with no machineries, chains blocs(like you can see him using in some of the photos of him working), electricity or sounds.
me alone, well..., with the help of physic's laws.
i can even make concrete blocs roll easily, as if they were a wheel if i want.

the required tools to do that are very simple.
shovel, buckets, sand, a lever(in some cases) and rail road wood blocs are about all that i would need.
well..., if you can find ways to work with the center of gravity of an object, knowing Newton's laws of motion will help greatly.

i am not saying it can't be done with electricity or sound
it is possible and have been scientifically proven.
i am just pointing out that this can be done by other mean then those two.
but look at the energy it currently take to do that and the size of the objects experimented on...

and if you want my opinion, the way i would do it, was used to build the pyramids.





@all
please peoples, don't write meta physical stuff here.
there are specialised forums where this kind of talk would be more appropriate.

even if the meta talk help develop the mind and,  some times, can give new ideas, it almost always end up in useless posts in here, or worst, in flaming wars.

every peoples have their own believes.
please respect them.
as much as you like to be respected.

Thanks

[jadaro2600]

I realize that jeanna may be right when it comes to posting clear specs on what the circuits are and contain.

It's probably equally important to add comments to the images we post, and as lazy as I am, after reorienting myself in here - I realize that it's probably just as important to create parts lists in the circuit diagrams as well as in the images 'comments' property ( This can usually be added when saving an image ).

Doing this means going back to the component labeling schemes they use in electronics courses - R₁, R₂, T₁, D₁...etc.

It may in fact become easier for someone to specifically reference a drawing or diagram without much fuss.

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Also, Jesus posted a large sheet of circuit icons, ..does anyone have a more detailed sheet of drawing icons, I need a good template library.  ( I'm sticking with Dia for now. )

[Cap-Z-ro]

" are you saying Ed moved the coral blocs by electrical or sound means ?

if yes, know that i am able to lift a 10 tonnes slab as many feet in the air as you want.
alone, with no machineries, chains blocs(like you can see him using in some of the photos of him working), electricity or sounds. "

No TheNOP...I am only speculating on the technique Ed may have used to move 30 ton blocks 50 miles on a 3/4 ton truck...which should have collapsed under the weight, under normal conditions.

I suspect his singing to the stones and possibly a joule thief type apparatus may have been used, and 'tuned' by Ed by pitching his voice so. 

Regards...

[jeanna]

@jeanna, I'll be sure to include more information about what I'm posting - unfortunately, I'm using parts which are salvaged from defunct devices, so Identifying them can sometimes be a pain.

Of course. And then that could be the very thing causing the result, so it is worth at least a general description.
And, I know not all transistors say who they are etc.
Thanks for the effort.
We will all win from it.

EDIT we posted simultaneously, jadaro. thanks again.

@MK1,
Thanks for going into so much detail. You helped me. I am sure you helped others too.

thank you,

jeanna