Joule Thief

[innovation_station]

@jadoro

I just don't see what you are doing , in this tread , since it has no toroid or jt circuit.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.0;topicseen    that is one

Scalar wave , google it.

Even if its interesting , it deserve its tread .

By the way , if you don't feedback the right voltage it not going to work .

But yes i don't like saying there is more out then in , because people get dumb , when that happens .
I don't need to prove anything to anyone but my self , its all i need .

da ta boom !!



dont blame ya there bro ....  lol

jadoro

well i do find yout setups intersting ... 



dont give up bro i know you know where your going but lay off the  the ou part .... YOU WILL LOSE THE BATTLE ....  the facts speek FOR THEM SELVES...

btw it has to be a transformer ...

and it is .. it also interacts with THE EARTHS MAGIC FEILD ......   in the resonant transformer action ....  this is the SONG IT SINGGGGGS... then there is inductive discharge ... or the colapse if you like the original jt only uses the colapse ... spike and the neg from the battery ...  i see no transformer relation any where in the original jt nor is there a of relation turns ....  just battery and kick ... 

so

3 sources ... the battery ... the resonant cold ...  and the colpapse


i want to know what is so DAMM hard to grasp .... lol this is SIMPLE SHIT!!

just try reverse engineering the TPU.....  to find out it is THE KICK...  with in the first few words SM says lol

same tatictis ... as the op's.....  lol

you have the RIGHT TO USE THE KICK.....

but anything i say after this point is ALL THAT IS REMEMBERED   and you JUST FORGOT THE RIGHT that was given in the first line  LOL

ist!



THE SMOKE IS THICK ...  AND THE MIRRORS   DISTORT THINGS 

[Mk1]

@all

I have to say have fun , keep working hard , but first understand what you are doing , explain it to your self first.
Learn from you toroid it is the only way to get a good design .

And don't complicate stuff that is not.

That is about it for me , my time here is almost done .

@ist

Keep the good work , also get peace with gadget.

@pirate , electricme ,jeanna , nop , gadget

Keep the good work 

I will need to go back to real life now get money , i have spent many nights up to get light , now i need to insure my own survival

Mark

[jadaro2600]

Well,

@ist, thnkyou,

@all, I don't even tempt to go for ou.

I just find it interesting to try different setups - my goal isn't OU, ..it's actually what I had outlined many pages back - a simply 6-12v step-up flyback transformer for lighting large florescent light fixtures.

The idea is to patch a marketable product for use from low voltage low ampere sources for use in solar-direct applications.

Ideally, this would be implemented in a way that automotive RV's could utilize the light produced from high frequency high voltage output.

Additionally, while reading about CFL's the idea was brought up that CO2 may be used instead of mercury vapor lamps, ..this may prove interesting as an angle for a new type of 'green' lighting.

The only problem with the mobile setups is the RF generated from the toroids - hence why I've chosen to look into additional setups.  I also understand that a toroid may be the LEAST polluting when it comes to electromagnetic radiation.

I really would like to see more about the CO2 lighting.

[jeanna]

@jadaro
Performs quite well for a High Permiability core. I have measured as high as 104volts rectified from a 20ma battery draw on a single rechargeable using a 1k ohm resistor to the base. I got the core from Elec-Goldmine.  ...
...

The Green coil goes from the Positive of the battery to the Resistor which goes to the Base of the Transistor. The Red coil goes from the Positive to the Collector of the Transistor. The Gold coil is where the good stuff is 


TYGER

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Interesting Hazens1,
This exact toroid is my worst performer. 104 rectified volts is way good.
The highest I got with this was 1.25V rectified. So, I put it away.

Did you stress it? Can you turn on a cfl? or a small ac motor? Or just,If you put a small load on it does it go way down?

You have connected these in a novel way, I think. I may just be tired, but to repeat it back to you, you have used 2 separate wires and connected them separately to the same connection points of a bjt. Is that right? These red and green wires are not connected to each other? They must be going in opposite directions, then. Is this correct?

Interesting.

thank you,

jeanna

[Mk1]

Well,

@ist, thnkyou,

@all, I don't even tempt to go for ou.

I just find it interesting to try different setups - my goal isn't OU, ..it's actually what I had outlined many pages back - a simply 6-12v step-up flyback transformer for lighting large florescent light fixtures.

The idea is to patch a marketable product for use from low voltage low ampere sources for use in solar-direct applications.

Ideally, this would be implemented in a way that automotive RV's could utilize the light produced from high frequency high voltage output.

Additionally, while reading about CFL's the idea was brought up that CO2 may be used instead of mercury vapor lamps, ..this may prove interesting as an angle for a new type of 'green' lighting.

The only problem with the mobile setups is the RF generated from the toroids - hence why I've chosen to look into additional setups.  I also understand that a toroid may be the LEAST polluting when it comes to electromagnetic radiation.

I really would like to see more about the CO2 lighting.

What do you think make your 2 inductor work .

Rf/Scalar wave

the rf from the jt needs to pickup its excess energy , and the overall design needs to be shielded that is all
So i don't get your point.

Mark