Joule Thief

[jadaro2600]

@gadgetmall, Pirate88179

Just for future reference, where should we measure the frequency of oscillations? ...I've been taking measurements across the collector and base as well as th collector and emitter.

[electricme]

@ TheNOP

     Quote back on P394         @Jadaro2600 and electricme
                                             you gave me an idea about eddy current tapping.

You are welcome  lol

@all, today I found a 2 foot diameter steel ring, half inch thick, 1 inch deep, had to leave it at the dump (I hided it because it was smoking, and too hot, heat wize, to put in the car), will go back tomorrow to get it.

jim

[TheNOP]

@All

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg139195#msg139195
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg151928#msg151928

again
what is the best toroid and what is your toroid frequency ? 

don't trow away those "bad" toroids yet.   ^^

[electricme]

@ Jeanna, mainly, just because cause you posted the U beaut torid ha ha
but this is for all who read this post.

I gota idea again, all, ooooops, wooha, time to put the thinking caps back on, I throwing a curved one, lol

When reading this, please see the torid in the horizontal plane.

Your 3 axis torid idea has intregued me, we can excite a magnetic field by the bifilar winding, we can access this magnetic field by winding a wire coil vertically around and around the torid, but from my reading up on the magnetic fields, inside the torid, one magnetic field goes round and round in the horizontal plane, (this is the one we capture and work with presently) the other magnetic field goes at 90 degreese to the horizontal one.

In fact there are 2 seperate magnetic fields within the torid, and possibably there are 3.

The present windings we wind on the torid, harnesses only 1 magnetic field, the horozontal internal magnetic field.
(this can be made to flow in either direction continuously, or it can be made to oscillate backwards and forwards.

Right -O-, picture a present wound torid, either a Mk1 or Mk2 on the horozontal plane.

   
Idea 1
OK, so what would we get out of "another" coil, if it was wound on the outside circumference of the torid, over the present vertical windings? but at 90 degrees to the vertical wires?
Just go round and round the outside of the torid, number of turns, who knows? (told yha it will make you think).
Would it be able to capture the 2nd magnetic field which is rotating at 90 degreese to the horizontal magnetic field?
I don't know!!!!!!!

Idea 2
A third (3rd) coil could be wound and slopped inside the torids center
Would this work? again, I don't know.

Idea 3
Looking at the torid JPG, (Nassim Haramein's I think), I see there is presented a vertical vortex or cone which by its presentation gives me the impression that here is another magnetic field to be investigated.

Perhapse a wide long coil made, but no smaller than the center of the torid, could be wound in its axis length and held vertical to the center of the torid. Perhapse if this was a "double inverted cone" winding, it might work.
Picture two ice cream cones, placed point to point together.
The smaller points meet inside the center of the torid.
What happens? who knows, just another funny idea I have lol.
 
I have not tried this, all this just came to me, but it makes sence to me.

Every TV set which has a cathode tube, has the cone wound "yoke", so there must be something in this.


Very big thunder storms have "sprites", which is lightning energy, which appears to proceed from the top of the storm, going in the vertical direction heading out into space. Pilots have remarked about seeing this happen.

In my astronomy days, I came accross theories of jets putting out huge energy within torid shaped solar galaxies.

Im stuck way back on post 394

jim

[hazens1]

Interesting Hazens1,
This exact toroid is my worst performer. 104 rectified volts is way good.
The highest I got with this was 1.25V rectified. So, I put it away.

Did you stress it? Can you turn on a cfl? or a small ac motor? Or just,If you put a small load on it does it go way down?

You have connected these in a novel way, I think. I may just be tired, but to repeat it back to you, you have used 2 separate wires and connected them separately to the same connection points of a bjt. Is that right? These red and green wires are not connected to each other? They must be going in opposite directions, then. Is this correct?

Interesting.

thank you,

jeanna

The High Perm 1" with Red, Green and Gold was wound CCW into the center of the toroid. Green first 10 turns, then Red 10 turns, then the Gold 80 turns to fill left over space in toroid. I hooked up the Green End of wire to Positive, Red Start of wire to Positive. Kind of like a center tap. I'll test a little more with this core to get some more numbers. Stay tuned..

I also plan on making a video using the Green, Red and Gold wire to make a core and show the assembly of the entire circuit. Maybe this coming weekend..

TYGER

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