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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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gadgetmall

Quote from: jeanna on May 16, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
So, Gadget, how is it connected and to which of these parts? I mean is it parallel to the pot and cap?... in series with them

Also in the bottom right hand corner of the close-up where this is prominent, there is something else I do not recognize. Maybe I should and it is at a funny angle. Please tell me what it is?

I like altoids boxes. curiously strong circuits, deserve to be in the right container you know.  ;)

thank you,

jeanna
YES VERY STRONG . I don't know which parts there a cap a Vr and a tuning coil ?? maybe the wire is what you see . I smushed it and did not cut it . Did anyone say More Please . Ok here ya go ! And a Fresh Battery for the meter ! heres  a close up and a schematic i think  ::)
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Pirate88179

Al:

Nice job man, that is fantastic output!  If I can ever figure out how to build this, there is no telling how many leds I can light from the old EB.  That is like running 3 Fuji's and then some.  Great job.  I believe the bar has been raised.

BTW  I was looking on your site for the 650f supercaps and did not see them, can you point me in the right direction?  Thanks.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

thanks Gadget,

My next questions are what could you do with it if you did not rectify it, and how much is there if it is not rectified.

I am very curious about this aspect.

You and Bill are capturing the ac which is in the ground and augmenting it into useful ac electricity, through the fuji ckt or through this new toroid.

This 1300 volts on your meter is such an awesome amount and although I suppose it would only count as half (maybe, I am not sure if it would be half) if you could keep it as an ac you should be able to transform it up and down and put things in a parallel way like our house currents, and then what could you do?

I am very excited to see this and I personally want to see what the ac possibilities are. (maybe, its a girl thing.)

thank you so much,

jeanna

gadgetmall

Quote from: jeanna on May 16, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
thanks Gadget,

My next questions are what could you do with it if you did not rectify it, and how much is there if it is not rectified.

I am very curious about this aspect.

You and Bill are capturing the ac which is in the ground and augmenting it into useful ac electricity, through the fuji ckt or through this new toroid.

This 1300 volts on your meter is such an awesome amount and although I suppose it would only count as half (maybe, I am not sure if it would be half) if you could keep it as an ac you should be able to transform it up and down and put things in a parallel way like our house currents, and then what could you do?

I am very excited to see this and I personally want to see what the ac possibilities are. (maybe, its a girl thing.)

thank you so much,

jeanna
Its pulsed Dc because i am not rectifying fullwave bridge . Its a little different than what electricme described in the output stage . On the Ac scale it sholde be about 2600 volts ? . I spose i could light up a bunch of Christmas treelights in the house and out in the yard ? Mainily i wanted enuff to light CFLS but i believe more light  from leds . I just got 100  200000 5mm 20ma white leds and they are brighest i have ever seen . one will light up a room if delineated with some translucent plastic . so 1000 to 3000 should light the whole house on one of these babys . I am using a cell i tor out of an oldder laptop battery and they charge up to 1.4 volts and 4500mah . the one im using now i havent charged in 2 days and its been testing  around the clock . I got an old altoids light wanna see it runs 24 hours a day 7 days a week and hurts your eyes . the led is a 1 watt luxeon i ripped out of a light . I put it either on top of an overhead CFL and when i shut the cfl off i still have light. If its bright outside i set in on the window sill . runs for 50 hours on a 5 hour light charge .
and here is another old bedini using lagr speaker and nedium magnet flywheel  with a small coil charging a jt battery and lighting up  twin eye balls. the bright shot is all jt light no flash . Of course this thing is spinning at 3000 +rpm and charging up 10 other batterys also .
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jeanna

Since the sun is about to set on the pacific ocean, and I awoke today with a dream about studying inductors, I figured it was time to start.  :D

I did look up inductors and found all the same stuff I have read many times before. I had a familiarity and better understanding than ever before, but nothing too new hit me, so watch out...

I wrapped a ball point pen with 12 turns of 26awg mag wire and stuck it in parallel with the base resistor of my current MK1 which is the 3T,4T,92T I used to make all those tables. There probably should be a cap also, but there is not.

The lithium battery starts too high 1.65v. so, I changed back to a NiMH at 1.35v for this. Also, the light got a bit brighter with the added inductor.

Sizzle... steam starts to pour from the top of the transistor.
Oh! did it get hot. I may have saved it, because nothing stopped working.

So, using a 540ohm base resistor which yesterday gave me
154volts at
20Khz, I looked into this.

first, today this was reading not the above amounts (maybe from input difference) but I got a lot less,

64.5Volts and
64.5KHz (same number!)

After I put the ball point inductor into the board with the legs parallel with the base resistor, the numbers changed to
83-89 volts
18.5 KHz.

And it was hot again.

Jadaro, do I remember that you had a heating priblem with your helmholz inductors?

I don't really know what to do with this but it did really raise the volts. I may look into this, but the heat is a problem. I think the next thing to try is in series with this resistor, yes? yes.

and a cap.

ok 4 now, the sun has set.

jeanna

EDIT simultaneous post
@gadget,
VERY very nice altoids box. very nice.
I didn't realize that dc converted the way you said-- doubled instead of halved. It is even better. I am glad you say you didn't full bridge it. I still need to work to understand this better.
very nice

btw, since I have a scope and I can see this.
MOST of the time  at least with all my MK1's, the waves are almost equal both above and below the center x axis. It is the reason I keep calling it ac.