Joule Thief

[altrez]

Thanks Bill.

Interesting thoughts theNOP. I gather one implication from this is that these parasytic devices CAN operate at very small currents, so let's push this a bit more...

So, Altrez
How are these 2 jts connected. I assume you are running them both from 1 battery and they are using the same pos and neg battery to start?

2 jt's means 2 transistors as well as 2 toroids, I guess.

Please explain how they are connected. (I know it is hard, the 2 tier is a bear to describe.)
Is it this?thank you,

jeanna

jeanna,

Well three battery's are involved. 1 battery on each JT and one battery that is connected to a Bridge that is rectifying the AC into DC and charging the battery.

Each battery is of the same type and rechargeable. The two JT's are tied together with jumper wires. That go from the DC out from the rectifier to the + - of the secondary JT.

So far the battery's drain very fast but charge back up to about the same voltage each time.

If it works like I think it is going to work and with the results I have noticed thus far. It should keep charging the battery while draining the source battery. I have swapped out the batteries twice so far and plan for a longer run while I am asleep.

If it runs from the same two battery's all week then what would that prove? I am not sure. I do know however that it has never ran a full week from two battery's before.

-Altrez

[jeanna]

Wow that is fast.
I know you have to go back to work tomorrow morning. Some numbers together would be great, like
Volts , and amps, and frequency.

Actually, I am confused about what the second battery is doing, or what the first rectified voltage from the first pick up is adding to the second jt if there is already a battery there. I may have it pictured wrong.

BUT FIRST...

I have a question. This is easy to do.

Take out the transistor from the second level and see if the lights go out anywhere.

My 2 tier thing happened because MK1 had just said the 2N2222 could be turned around. The lights on my second level were so dim I took the transistor out to turn it around to see if that would improve it.

And the thing didn't miss a beat. Literally.

I would like to know if the same applies to what you have because I was pumping AC into my second level and you are pumping rectified DC pulses into it.

Because it is coming in in a pulsing way, I would like to know if the one transistor is enough there too.

Thanks,

jeanna

[gadgetmall]

jeanna,

Well three battery's are involved. 1 battery on each JT and one battery that is connected to a Bridge that is rectifying the AC into DC and charging the battery.

Each battery is of the same type and rechargeable. The two JT's are tied together with jumper wires. That go from the DC out from the rectifier to the + - of the secondary JT.

So far the battery's drain very fast but charge back up to about the same voltage each time.

If it works like I think it is going to work and with the results I have noticed thus far. It should keep charging the battery while draining the source battery. I have swapped out the batteries twice so far and plan for a longer run while I am asleep.

If it runs from the same two battery's all week then what would that prove? I am not sure. I do know however that it has never ran a full week from two battery's before.

-Altrez

It Proves you made a close replication of my ETERNITY LIGHT  Cept mine is miniaturized a bit smaller . aaa batterys and they are not supposed to be rechargable but they are ............runs for

Gadget

[WilbyInebriated]

@bill
sorry to go so way off topic here but i thought you might enjoy this one since you like organs. your heineken keg reminded me of a beer gadget site where someone had taken a keg like yours and made it into an r2d2 droid. on the same page they had this: http://www.petersontuners.com/index.cfm?category=124&sub=209

i can see why they take two months to make, glass by glass...
99 bottles of beer on the wall 

[electricme]

@ Bill
Thanks for the kind remarks, TA

Nice job on the new acquisitions. 

About the carbon rods.  Gadget is selling a 1/2" dia. x 12" long carbon rod and a similar sized magnesium rod on his website.  Shipping down under shouldn't be too bad.

Also, if you have 20 of the smaller rods, just use some plastic tiewraps (wire ties) and band them together.  I would not introduce a third metal (steel) into the mix.  If I remember correctly, those rods in the D cell bats are almost 1/2" diameter.  So, 30 of them banded together would be a pretty good sized mass of carbon....way bigger than my rods I am using.  I would place them in the ground vertically.  Man, I am guessing that would make a grouping about 6" in diameter or so.  I am confident this will work well.  If not, it is no problem to remove the plastic tiewraps but I am betting you won't need to.

Bill

Your grouping of several carbon rods has merit, and using plastic ties is something I had not even thought of, top marks for this Bill, I have several tie sizes here at home.
I will pond on this for awhile.

@ Gary,
Thank you for your input also, it is a matter of digesting all this and seeing which is more efficiant at making energy, perhaps a mixture of both ideas will do the job.
Very good ideas from both of you.
Thankyou.

jim

All,
My brother and I decided to visit a trailer shop, upon leaving, I mentioned to the shop owner, I was on the lookout for broken magnesium wheel rims, come out with me he said, look what he gave me, lol
Now I got a little digging to do, but first I have to remove the black and white paint to allow any telleric current to adhere itself to the "electrodes".

I put the cover on the Adj Power supply, just in case anyone was wondering about this, I might have to setup a PC 12v colling fan inside it later on.

A Question Without An Answer
If 2 mice decide to eat from the same mouse trap, at the same time.
Which one tripped the trap? The one on the Left or the one on the Right?
When the trap went off, which mouse said to his off sider, thanks stupid?

I did not put a second mouse in the trap, they both really did feed off the same trap together.

Now I got to start catching up

jim