Joule Thief

[gadgetmall]

No, and I agree I should be. I think I should have a while ago with other toroids, also.

I must be not doing something that "anybody"  can do. I think others are doing something that is so obvious to them that they never mention it, but it is what would make it work.

So,

Please all those who have managed to turn a fluoro on with a toroid... I need some help here.
Probably help with the obvious.
Meanwhile, I will watch some lidmotor videos etc.
If there is one that directly addresses this, please get me the link.

thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna i wish you could light an Fl . I would get the lowest wattage CLf i could . I have always lit Spiral Cfls easier than tube . start with 9 to 4 watt . . I don't usually tear apart good ones cause i have a constant supply of bad ones. They burn out quicker that an incandescent bulb here .China Junk ! I would recommend to build a voltage multiplier on your 450 volt model to attain over 800 volts first . then if you can't light one you are cursed   I rely on the power of Christ on My Projects . Anything i touch  seems to work . Its a gift the Neighbors appreciate from Vcrs,tvs to toasters and walkietalkies .Its the Power Of Christ Mixed in with a tiny bit of ingenuity and faith . If you recall way back when we all had agoal to light them and now everyone i s. I was Disappointed because the hazen and mk1 didn't work for me so i sat down and just grabbed a toroid and started to wind blindly . soo i got 1300 volts and a mess up Tv . Sometimes science needs to be set aside and just do it .. I have found that the size of the toroid don't matter for HV . And look at your simple switching of transistors and collector base  wires you did . you Phased  is and got + more voltage . Keep on keeping on . My secret is i wind a bunch of primary and a bunch of secondary . Unknown toroid work best for some reason  except for the one known toroid i got 1300 volts .  I still want to go higher so im waiting for a Vector board to put My Sec on . a Sec is alike a JT . its a transmitter .

Albert 

[innovation_station]

Jeanna i wish you could light an Fl . I would get the lowest wattage CLf i could . I have always lit Spiral Cfls easier than tube . start with 9 to 4 watt . . I don't usually tear apart good ones cause i have a constant supply of bad ones. They burn out quicker that an incandescent bulb here .China Junk ! I would recommend to build a voltage multiplier on your 450 volt model to attain over 800 volts first . then if you can't light one you are cursed   I rely on the power of Christ on My Projects . Anything i touch  seems to work . Its a gift the Neighbors appreciate from Vcrs,tvs to toasters and walkietalkies .Its the Power Of Christ Mixed in with a tiny bit of ingenuity and faith . If you recall way back when we all had agoal to light them and now everyone i s. I was Disappointed because the hazen and mk1 didn't work for me so i sat down and just grabbed a toroid and started to wind blindly . soo i got 1300 volts and a mess up Tv . Sometimes science needs to be set aside and just do it .. I have found that the size of the toroid don't matter for HV . And look at your simple switching of transistors and collector base  wires you did . you Phased  is and got + more voltage . Keep on keeping on . My secret is i wind a bunch of primary and a bunch of secondary . Unknown toroid work best for some reason  except for the one known toroid i got 1300 volts .  I still want to go higher so im waiting for a Vector board to put My Sec on . a Sec is alike a JT . its a transmitter .

Albert

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[jeanna]

I wish you success.
If you attain your goal everybody here wins, because you share.
Jesus

Sweet.
Thank you, jesus.

jeanna

[Mk1]

@all

I have a question , about bulbs that can be used for a switch with a triac.

I am looking for one at 12 and 24 volts .

Any idea ?

Mark

Its to use if this type of circuit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGVDt9MbaKE

BTW he captures the bemf from the jt not the secondary , now could we do both . 


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[jeanna]

Jeanna i wish you could light an Fl . I... I would recommend to build a voltage multiplier on your 450 volt model to attain over 800 volts first

What is a voltage multiplier?
Is it another transformer added to this?
Do I put it across the pickup wires?

I was Disappointed because the hazen and mk1 didn't work for me so i sat down and just grabbed a toroid and started to wind blindly . soo i got 1300 volts and a mess up Tv .

As I recall there was a lot more to it than lots of turns.
There were caps and ... I mean 1300 volts may do it but I think 450volts should do it.
The fuji ckt has a 300v booster cap.
I am missing a cap, or something like that that you and others just "know" to put in there.
And do not realize others are not doing this.

No, I am NOT cursed.
I am learning and trying by error. I am OK with that.
I need to be in the midst of the think tank to get the input, but I do not have any resource that can just "show" me, except for 'youtube' and 'youguys' 

.... I have found that the size of the toroid don't matter for HV .

I have noticed that voltage goes down when frequency goes up.
The little toroids are very good at going fast.
They do not have enough physical room in them to make enough turns to create the voltage from the frequency. (it is not really create, I know.... or maybe it is.)

Has anyone else heard the toroid sing LOWER when the volts go up?
In Slayer's video where he says let me turn this down a bit... He is turning the pot so the voltage goes down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiL1Rhcf6g at the 30 second mark.
Well, all you musicians... the sound=frequency goes up until you can barely hear it as the voltage goes down and the bulb dims.  = sound proof.

... Keep on keeping on...

thanks for the encouragement

My secret is i wind a bunch of primary and a bunch of secondary . Unknown toroid work best for some reason  except for the one known toroid i got 1300 volts .

Yes, that is what I am talking about when I say "I am poking at it."
I always go back for more details when I poke something and it looks promissing.
But, I want to know how it works, not just get results.
It is my MO (modus operandi = how I operate)

Thank you Al,

So, Al and everyone else,
I would like some more detail on a cap and how I should connect it to make the start spike I think I need on a cfl.

thank you,

jeanna