Joule Thief

[jeanna]

I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get some decent iron powder? .....the coils in an encasement of iron .....

Hi jadaro,

I bought some magnetite powder last fall. I do not have the link handy, but if you want I will look for it. I would think magnetite would work really well. hmmm...

jeanna

[resonanceman]

So my question is simply this. Is there any real reason to keep pushing the voltage up? And if so why? What are you the experimenter trying to accomplish? What do you think will happen? I know I have a 900.000 volt stun gun and it will not light a 20 watt tube at full brightness so is the goal of this to try and hit millions of volts and if so what then?

Altrez


If  you assume  that   current teachings about   
how  things  work are accureate and complete .......there is no reason to  experiment.

I believe that  the  curriculum  in our collages   have been  tweaked  to  " overlook "  the  'quirks ' that  could   produce OU .

Back EMF  or flyback   is one of those things .......much is taught about how to overcome it ....... nothing is taught about how to use it  to benefit  us .

The induction of  AC current is not  exactly  what we have been taught .

The  JT  can be used to  study  either of these  " quirks "



I  believe that  the powers that be  started  influencing   our collages  around the time that Tesla was blacklisted .

We have 200 years of  flawed  teaching to overcome .
I am not saying that  our collages  are  wrong in general
99 % of what they teach  is  right and  accurate .
Most  of the  1%   ........the ' quirks " that could  produce OU   are handled  by omission   rather than lies
They teach how to avoid the problem .........  the problem is never really studied .


If I am right about  this .........expermenting is the only moral thing to do .
We   need the  truth .............. we can not   go on much longer  with our current energy policy


gary

[stprue]

This mobius coil is interesting: however, I don't see how it's mobian in any way, it's just a  side-by-side 'gimmick-like' inductor.

I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get some decent iron powder? ..I want to attempt a sort of immersion coil, where I place the coils in an encasement of iron rather than having the iron inside the coil.

You can get Iron filings from edmund scientific.com

[stprue]

Hi stprue,

The short answer is yes, I have collected all that in a cap (from a fuji cam) thru a bridge. That was before I got the scope, though.

I cannot explain it to you, but I have been working for days now getting the tesla lectures in a readable form for others to read.
I just added 2 1/2 pages to the ac jt thread next door.

The subject is about how to make different ac effects from 5 different circuit configs. The last one is how to turn it back into dc.
Just when you do read it, remember that the sparks are replaced in out circuits by the transistor. oh happiness! 

Maybe it will explain it to you.
What you are seeing makes sense to me after reading this lecture a few times. (there is much more of it) and, even though I cannot explain it to you, it may get through to you as it did me??

BTW, in that diagram he was intending to have the experimenter use all 6 circuits at the same time.

It may take a few more long days, but I plan to upload that lecture as a pdf here on ou.

In any case, you can copy all the words and the pics and save them on your computer for more relaxed study.

I hope this helps a bit.

jeanna

I see xee gave a real answer. good stuff.

Jeanna thank you for the info and I'm glad you have seen this effect.

[gadgetmall]

@all

I have been testing input verses output and looking for any positive results. Yes I can light 140 LEDS from my jt! However they are not producing the same type of power / watts / lumens as if they where plugged into mains.

In fact even if I just use 10 LEDS rated at 3.7 volts and 30ma in series they are so dang bright with the JT and yet still do not produce the same amount of power as if I push them with the right type of power source.

So my question is that even when we push out 20000 plus volts with the JT its still not producing any more power then what the 1 AA is capable of delivering to the circuit or so it seems to me?

So if I am correct a AA battery can only produce 2.4 watts per hour tops. So it would be impossible to run a 15 watt tube from a pickup coil at full brightness no matter if you had a 1000000 volts on a pickup coil.  I do not believe anyone has successfully lit a 15 watt tube at full brightness for any length of time yet with 1 AA battery? I could be wrong please correct me if I am and also post detailed notes of how you tested the brightness of the tube.

So my question is simply this. Is there any real reason to keep pushing the voltage up? And if so why? What are you the experimenter trying to accomplish? What do you think will happen? I know I have a 900.000 volt stun gun and it will not light a 20 watt tube at full brightness so is the goal of this to try and hit millions of volts and if so what then?


-Altrez

Altrez i have Blown over 50 Expensive 100 milliamp LEdS (tophats)in parallel with a jt of mine and had to put them in series / parallel and they are full bright on a 1.2 volt AAA battery . the volts and current are too high on that toroid. Now you cant do that with an aaa battery by itself . The leds are BRIGHTER than a Mains or 3 aa batterys  these are 4.2 volt Blinding leds burnt .Just ask anyone here who has blown them mk1 and jennas know about frying components on a single aa battery . forget the fugi which will light a spiral to full brightness with two modifications never mentioned . a better transistors with hfe over 200 and proper tuning of the primary coil wrapped around the secondary .You can also go below 100 ohms on the base but your transistor will fry in a few minutes I'm talking toroid and self winders . They light camping flora lights to full bright on 6 volts (2 of them).and i'm talking about Manufactured camping lights. they now have old tube type and newer u shaped and spiral tubes in Coleman lanterns. i pulled one out (9")and they are 110 volt 9 watt tubes. you assumption is wrong .You haven't hit on the right combination's yet . Try winding over 50 different torroids and you will find torridness What ever that means . its in spell check and sounded good.
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