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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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resonanceman

Quote from: innovation_station on June 18, 2009, 03:25:31 PM
@ STPURE ....

YOU ARE A GOOD EXPAIRMENTER IF YOU GET A MOT ILL TEACH U ALL SOMETHING ...

OK

RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW !!

;D

IST!

WHAT YA SAY .... I NEED SOME ONE TO GET A MOT ...   THERE INSIDE THE MOT YOU FIND 2 COILS CLOSE IN MASS LOW INDUCTANCE AND HIGH INDUCTANCE ...    HOOK IT UP  IN A 1 WIRE CONFIG COLLECT THE BIG COLAPSE ...  IN THE DRIVEING CAP ....   YOU THEN CAN CLOSE THE LOOP ...   ITS A BALLANCEING ACT .. :D

I HAVE A VID ON YOUTUBE SHOWING IT ....  ;) un closed loop

BTW GUESS WHAT ....  BOOM BOOM POW.....  ;D  WILL I AM .... DROP THA BEAT NOW!!!!!!!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7624.0

O JUST A LIL BLIND TO MY EYE ....  ;)

EYE ST!

Has anyone made a JT out of a MOT?

I have one  running  now ........it is lighting  a CFL  tube
It  is not  bright .........but it is lit
I am  using a  3N3055  and a Jesus  charger
The  light is lit up   at  .04 A  to .25 A  after .25A it starts flashing then goes  out .
Because of the Jesus  charger  there is very little draw from the battery .
I have been  running  it for  at least a half hour now on .04A     The  voltage on my bettery  has been reading  1.206  the entire time .
I am  sure with  just a little feecback this can be made to  self  charge  or  hold   its voltage at higher power levels .

I am  going to add  the schematic for   the Jesus  charger  just in case 
I hope  to have a picture of  my MOTJT  within the hour .. 

Just  to be clear ............this is a basic  JT  made with a MOT  rather than a  hand wound   toroid 

gary

jeanna

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 19, 2009, 04:42:20 PM

anyone ask about the freq.? does anyone think that high voltage/low freq. is the way to go?
I was trying, Wilby,

The thing is that as the voltage goes higher the frequency drops.
By the time I got a toroid large enough to hold enough turns to give me enough voltage the thing was a little slow anyway, and by the time I got the volts up to 450 which eventually lit the light, the frequency was 5.6KHz.

Now, that is still high frequency. It is a lot less high than many of my other toroids so it seems slow and low.
It seems, like the caps range thing everything needs to be put into balance to work well.

Anyway, with a given toroid and a certain amount of turns (necessary for the voltage) there is little one can do about the frequency. It will go down as the voltage goes up.

jeanna

nievesoliveras

Quote from: resonanceman on June 19, 2009, 05:04:34 PM
Has anyone made a JT out of a MOT?

I have one  running  now ........it is lighting  a CFL  tube
It  is not  bright .........but it is lit
I am  using a  3N3055  and a Jesus  charger
The  light is lit up   at  .04 A  to .25 A  after .25A it starts flashing then goes  out .
Because of the Jesus  charger  there is very little draw from the battery .
I have been  running  it for  at least a half hour now on .04A     The  voltage on my bettery  has been reading  1.206  the entire time .
I am  sure with  just a little feecback this can be made to  self  charge  or  hold   its voltage at higher power levels .

I am  going to add  the schematic for   the Jesus  charger  just in case 
I hope  to have a picture of  my MOTJT  within the hour .. 

Just  to be clear ............this is a basic  JT  made with a MOT  rather than a  hand wound   toroid 

gary

Congratulations @resonanceman !

I must clarify that the improvement 2 is just for running a pulse motor. If you add it to the charger it will not make any visible change, but running a pulse motor, the improvement 2 will make the motor to go faster.

Jesus

resonanceman

Quote from: nievesoliveras on June 19, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Congratulations @resonanceman !

I must clarify that the improvement 2 is just for running a pulse motor. If you add it to the charger it will not make any visible change, but running a pulse motor, the improvement 2 will make the motor to go faster.

Jesus

Thanks  Jesus
I did  try  adding the  cap for improvement  2 ........ you are right .  It did not help

The  basic  charger works  great   
Oh...........if  I  adjust it so that the  CFL is no longer lit ........it charges the battery

:)

Here  is  a picture of my MOT JT
This CFL  was  suposed to replace a 100 W bulb
I tried  running this circuit  with 2 AAs    The light was no brighter  untill I  tried  adding a cap to the base ..... in general  the larger  the cap I tried  the brighter the light was ..........and the more power it drew . 
Another disadvantage of  using  a cap  is the range it works  at gets very narrow .
I do not think  it would  run unattended very long with a cap


gary

nievesoliveras

Quote from: resonanceman on June 19, 2009, 05:56:24 PM
Thanks  Jesus
I did  try  adding the  cap for improvement  2 ........ you are right .  It did not help

The  basic  charger works  great   
Oh...........if  I  adjust it so that the  CFL is no longer lit ........it charges the battery

:)

Here  is  a picture of my MOT JT
This CFL  was  suposed to replace a 100 W bulb


gary

Yes it is just like that its behaviour. If you use the light it makes the battery to last longer, but discharges slowly anyway. When the light is out and the circuit is running it charges the battery.

Can you believe if I tell you that mine does not want to work anymore for unknown reasons?

BTW
Can you draw a sketch of the MOT connections to the circuit? That is just in case I find a microwave and take out the MOT to replicate.

Jesus