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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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nievesoliveras

#7460
June 20, 2009, 10:46:14 PM
@all

I made this circuit with a 120v to 12v ac transformer.
I tried the circuit without the charger part and the transformer does not work with one AA battery. It works with three volts.

The output is ac and is on the 120v electrical cable.
Only gave 6v ac output with 3v dc as input. The voltage was not stable.

I will try the charger part to see if I can use a AA battery. I need to get more or better diodes. The 1N4148 got broken just on the cathode mark, they just got divided by two making some tests and that was the motive my setup was not working.

The diodes were broken and in place as if they were okay.

Jesus

electricme

#7461
June 20, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
@Gary and All

Quote from: Mk1 on June 20, 2009, 04:38:58 PM
@gary

a spark gap of about 5 millimeter is about 10 to 15000 volts...

Mark

Edit . i also got some goodies 2 neon 120 volts and 2 12 volts one i am not sure if they are really neon i will see. 2 triac tic263m , and a 1.75 inch toroid , i will try to feed the big one and kick it at 80 volts high amp , from the bemf and pickup coil from a mk1 with dummy load toroid . and v6 relay

This may take a while ,but it may do tic tac tic tac tic tac bangggggggggggg.

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.net/datasheet-pdf/view/20145/POINN/TIC263M.html


Now get another MOT, and connect it back to back.

                    MOT 1                                                                MOT 2
           --------------------                                          -------------------------
           | secondary HV Out |                                         |     secondary HV in       |
           |  -----------------------------------------------------------------------  |
           | ----------------   |  out                              in  | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |  out                              in   | ---------------------   |
           | -----------------------------------------------------------------------   |
           |   primary              |                                         |       primary LV Out       |
    -----------------------   |                                         |  -----------------------------
    IN    | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |    out
    -----------------------  |                                         |  ------------------------------
           |                          |                                         |                                  |
           |________________|                                          |_____________________|

                                                                                                             
      Connect above MOT to JT                                           This MOT to your LOAD



Put the output of the First MOT secondary, (which has the sparks) and put the wires into the output of the Secondary of the second MOT. (one is attatched to the frame, so the frame is now live).
To isolate the MOT frames, take BOTH the wires off the transformers where it attatches itself on the frame of the MOT, insulate the wires with a HV rated insulation.
Silecone around this where the wire comes out of the coil.

The lower voltage is output power.
Now you should have a little "grunt" to play with.

WARNING,,,,,Disclamer.
Only make this if you know what you are doing, If you don't know or understand this, then seek more advice.
If you hurt yourself, then you didn't take enough care, so don't blame me.

BE careful, it will be at voltage that may be high or low depending on how much you feed into both MOTs, it should have AMPs on the MOT2 output.

jim

EDIT ***** 
I suggest you get hold of the RED wires which take HV from the HV coils that goes to the tube of a TV set or a PC monitor.
These are designed to handle VHV, if you carn't get them (from junked sets) then go to the Auto electrician, and ask him for a yard/meter of HT spark plug cable.

If testing HV circuits, put one hand in you pocket at all times, and use a HV probe on the test instrument.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

xee2

#7462
June 20, 2009, 11:32:44 PM


This probably better data to use than sparks between spheres. Wires are more like needle points than spheres.

nievesoliveras

#7463
June 20, 2009, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: electricme on June 20, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
@Gary and All


Now get another MOT, and connect it back to back.

                    MOT 1                                                                MOT 2
           --------------------                                          -------------------------
           | secondary HV Out |                                         |     secondary HV in       |
           |  -----------------------------------------------------------------------  |
           | ----------------   |  out                              in  | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |
           | ----------------   |  out                              in   | ---------------------   |
           | -----------------------------------------------------------------------   |
           |   primary              |                                         |       primary LV Out       |
    -----------------------   |                                         |  -----------------------------
    IN    | ----------------   |                                         | ---------------------   |    out
    -----------------------  |                                         |  ------------------------------
           |                          |                                         |                                  |
           |________________|                                          |_____________________|

                                                                                                             
      Connect above MOT to JT                                           This MOT to your LOAD



Put the output of the First MOT secondary, (which has the sparks) and put the wires into the output of the Secondary of the second MOT. (one is attatched to the frame, so the frame is now live).
To isolate the MOT frames, take BOTH the wires off the transformers where it attatches itself on the frame of the MOT, insulate the wires with a HV rated insulation.
Silecone around this where the wire comes out of the coil.

The lower voltage is output power.
Now you should have a little "grunt" to play with.

WARNING,,,,,Disclamer.
Only make this if you know what you are doing, If you don't know or understand this, then seek more advice.
If you hurt yourself, then you didn't, so don't blame me.

BE careful, it will be at voltage that may be high or low depending on how much you feed into both MOTs, it should have AMPs on the MOT2 output.

jim

Thank you @electricme !

I will try that eventually.

Jesus

resonanceman

#7464
June 20, 2009, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: electricme on June 20, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
@Gary and All

Now get another MOT, and connect it back to back.

Put the output of the First MOT secondary, into the output of the Secondary of the second MOT.

Now you should have a little "grunt" to play with.

WARNING,,,,,
BE careful, it will be a voltage that you can use, it should have AMPs with it also.

jim

Thanks Jim

Have you  done this already ?

The   microwave that I am thinking of taking apart is  much  bigger than the one I got the MOT from ........  do you  have any idea  how  size affects  this  circuit ?

If the wires are the same on the other MOT  it looks to me like  a winding  can  be used for feedback
If so .......it  should  self charge . .......if a Jesus  charger is  used with it too .

I will start  taking the microwave  apart tomorrow .

gary
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